Will overseas travel (to Europe as an example) be allowed by July 2022?

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#2803442 29-Oct-2021 11:54

I'm really hoping that NZers coming back into the country is OK by April next year, even fully vaxxed tourists.

Mainly because we have a Pacific Island cruise booked for July (that has been delayed for a year now).

It departs and returns to Auckland. I wouldn't even care if we weren't allowed off in the islands. At the moment Australian cruising is resuming in February, meaning the lines will bring a couple of ships this way. I'm about 50/50 on it happening at the moment.

I'm tempted to just sell up and move to Italy, live off the profit from my house for the rest of my life. Probably not sustainable, but I'd get a few good years in ;)

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#2803490 29-Oct-2021 12:46

Oh the cruise aspect of travel will be interesting to see what happens there.

I suspect air travel will be prioritised first followed by cruise passengers.

Fingers crossed for you!

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#2803767 29-Oct-2021 16:30

heavenlywild:
How is everyone feeling about travel prospects next year, namely the ability to come back into the country without MiQ?

Hopefully MIQ goes away in the timeframe indicated (Q1 next year). July is the earliest we can come back and that’ll be 3 years without seeing family.

Travel is still a pain, especially finding timely tests in countries you are visiting. A lot of European countries are really scaling back testing and charging, in some cases charging a lot, for it so it becomes challenging to get preflight PCRs.

We’ll see how Europe comes out of winter.

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#2803772 29-Oct-2021 16:37

It's interesting that some countries in the EU - France, for example, requires zero COVID tests before or on arrival as long as you can show you are fully vaccinated.

I hope this expands further globally to make things less of a pain as you say Handle9.

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#2803773 29-Oct-2021 16:38

^I should add that's based on New Zealand being on France's safe or green or whatever that list is called 😄

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#2806171 2-Nov-2021 14:43

Yesterdays announcement was good news for those hanging out for recreational international travel.

Announcing reduction's to restrictions on a day of record case numbers, and talk of the Auckland border not being in place for a long period of time speaks to a transition towards a "let it rip" approach. Droping restrictions in the waikato first (which dosn't have an enforced boundary) indicates a lack of partial concern about domestic spread of the virus.

Given positive cases are isolating at home, there will (rightly) be loud cries pointing out the disparity in behavior. Will be increasingly hard to justify not offering MIQ to vaccinated arrivals.

And of course the calls to drop all isolation requirements (to tested, fully vaccinated travelers from low risk countries) will grow too. Little point in having a very expensive and intrusive shark fence where there are sharks on both sides of it. NSW going this route will further add to expectations.

heavenlywild:

Oh the cruise aspect of travel will be interesting to see what happens there.

I suspect air travel will be prioritised first followed by cruise passengers.

Fingers crossed for you!

I think for many countries cruise will be the last off the block. (likely including NZ)

Cruise got slammed with the virus in the early days of the pandemic - NZ got really lucky that an infected ship left NZ early to go to Aussie.... Strong case for risk adversion.
Cruise is purely recreational - Air travel covers more emotive stuff like re-uniting families, getting people home from FIFO work etc.
Our onshore tourism industry has taken a beating, Getting them up and running should be the priory, compared to cruise ships which are registered offshore, don't follow our labour laws, pay tax offshore etc.

Getting a bit off topic, but a case could be made that many countries would be better off without allowing cruise ships. The highly seasonal nature of the cruise industry in particular isn't great for local communities.

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#2818061 23-Nov-2021 20:21

I've taken the plunge and booked a trip back to the UK in April to visit my mum. Some great fares from Lufthansa helped me decide.

Calculated risk on MIQ to be a thing of the past by then. They need the hotel rooms for the local cases! Happy to self isolate at home.

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#2818065 23-Nov-2021 20:26

Much of Europe is, or will, reintroducing restrictions for the winter. Austria is in full lockdown for 20 days and this will likely be extended. We had hoped to go to Vienna for Christmas but it is what it is. The European summer will probably be largely OK but winters will be tough for a while yet.

Don't kid yourselves that "everything is back to normal in the rest of the world." It's not true and likely won't be for a while. I wouldn't plan any trips north over the next couple of winters.

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#2818085 23-Nov-2021 21:22

Im would love to go to Denmark in July for a few weeks.
Still hesitant though, especially if it becomes really bad in NZ, as it’s winter time by then.

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