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#2954847 15-Aug-2022 12:24

openmedia:

These are locals who aren't planning on travelling. Most don't bother reporting any more

Ah, I thought you were speaking in the context of the international travel experience.

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#2954850 15-Aug-2022 12:36

Immediate future travel plans helped convince New that I should report my positive test. All the destinations no longer require pre-departure test but if that changed I wanted to ensure I had evidence that I was not infected based on recent recovery. Apparently after recovery some people test positive for sure a while (as it turned out, I didn’t)

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#2954863 15-Aug-2022 13:39

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panther2: How many of those re-entering are getting the RAT test survey to talk day 0/1 5/6

We had relatives here recently from OZ and they got constant reminders until the completed their tests.

We've just got back and my wife got a reminder for day 0/1 as the submission was incomplete

And just got my Day 5 reminder - still negative.

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#2958505 23-Aug-2022 21:35

Has anyone departed recently through Auckland? Just wondering what the screening times are like, do I need to be at the airport super early?

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#2958506 23-Aug-2022 21:39

Senecio:
Has anyone departed recently through Auckland? Just wondering what the screening times are like, do I need to be at the airport super early?

Not sure how recent you want, but when I went two months ago it was maybe five minutes wait mid-afternoon. It's not like the US where you can spend two hours in a queue that stretches out onto the footpath outside the terminal.

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#2958523 24-Aug-2022 07:15

neb:
Senecio:

Has anyone departed recently through Auckland? Just wondering what the screening times are like, do I need to be at the airport super early?

Not sure how recent you want, but when I went two months ago it was maybe five minutes wait mid-afternoon. It's not like the US where you can spend two hours in a queue that stretches out onto the footpath outside the terminal.

I flew out a couple of weeks ago, and in the evening it took less than 5 minutes to get through, but I was late due to a late connecting flight, so most passengers for my flight had already gone through.

However coming back to Auckland is a terrible experience, at least if you arrive 6am to 7am, it is worse than LAX. The NZ travel declaration often doesn't link to the smart gates properly, so the majority of people were redirected to the poorly staffed assistance desk, and the queues for border security to get bags x rayed were also slow. If you have a connection to a domestic flight it would pay to allow three hours.

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#2958525 24-Aug-2022 07:21

Senecio:
Has anyone departed recently through Auckland? Just wondering what the screening times are like, do I need to be at the airport super early?

Left on Thursday, back on Sunday. The whole thing was a breeze apart from one hiccup: the oversized baggage scanner at AKL was on the blink and kept stopping. There was a bit of a queue to get golf clubs through there.

Apart from that no problems. Smartgate working at both ends. Baggage arrived promptly at the carousels. Long queue at immigration on arrival home but it kept moving. Took about 45 min from off the plane to in the car.

The travelers declaration was never asked for, but I did upload it into the airnz app.

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#2958557 24-Aug-2022 09:32

Thanks for the feedback. I'm off to Singapore this afternoon at 2pm, back at midday on Sunday. I can relax this morning and arrive at the airport when I normally do for an international flight.

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#2958559 24-Aug-2022 09:33

How long do we think masks will be a requirement on International flights?

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#2958564 24-Aug-2022 09:48

MikeAqua:

How long do we think masks will be a requirement on International flights?

IIRC in international airspace, the law of the aircraft's registration country applies. AirNZ's aircraft are registered in NZ, so New Zealand's mask rules are in effect on those flights. For my trip (AKL-BNE-OOL-AKL) I noticed that:

- In AKL airport - check-in, security, lounge: mask wearing by minority.

- Onboard aircraft - mask wearing by majority on sitting down and getting the 'wear your mask properly' announcement. But then progressively the masks came off and by the end < 50%. Almost everyone had them off when the food and drink came out.

- At BNE, OOL airports - most people, even airport staff, are mask free.

- In Brisbane and Gold Coast, hardly saw a mask anywhere.

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#2958584 24-Aug-2022 10:40

I guess for NZ registered aircraft the requirements for masks on planes would be tied to a change in traffic light to Green which would also remove the requirement for public Transport?

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#2958599 24-Aug-2022 11:12

>IIRC in international airspace, the law of the aircraft's registration country applies.

Leaving for New Caledonia on Friday.

As of Aug 1, NewCal has followed Frances move to zero CoVid requirements (Masks, tests, etc).

The AirCalin website says :
"For flights to New Caledonia, masks are mandatory only for flights departing from Singapore."

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#2958662 24-Aug-2022 11:41

Senecio:

I guess for NZ registered aircraft the requirements for masks on planes would be tied to a change in traffic light to Green which would also remove the requirement for public Transport?

The traffic light system was supposed to be all about vaccine passes allowing higher attendance at places like hospo and entertainment...

When the Vax passes got dumped in April it turning into a bit of a hollow shell,

I don't think we will ever get to Green, They will simply dump the whole framework, and just look to specific mask requirements when they need them..

It looks like we should drop down to 1-2000 cases a day as we head into spring, if there was ever a time to dump making that would be it, but it will be a test of the Govt to see if they are going to further undercut the previously followed health experts

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#2958677 24-Aug-2022 11:59

johno1234:

IIRC in international airspace, the law of the aircraft's registration country applies. AirNZ's aircraft are registered in NZ, so New Zealand's mask rules are in effect on those flights. For my trip (AKL-BNE-OOL-AKL) I noticed that:

- In AKL airport - check-in, security, lounge: mask wearing by minority.

- Onboard aircraft - mask wearing by majority on sitting down and getting the 'wear your mask properly' announcement. But then progressively the masks came off and by the end < 50%. Almost everyone had them off when the food and drink came out.

- At BNE, OOL airports - most people, even airport staff, are mask free.

- In Brisbane and Gold Coast, hardly saw a mask anywhere.

I believe it's a bit more complex than just the law of the registration of the aircraft. For example, US carriers won't serve 20 year olds alcohol while they're in US airspace, but outside it they will sometimes serve anyone over 18.

As to your observations, there is no requirement to wear masks in Queensland except on public transport (including Ubers and taxis), so that is why you would have seen no masks anywhere. The government "recommends" that you wear them when you can't social distance, but Queenslanders get recalcitrant fairly quickly and pandemic fatigue has well and truly set in. Airports, despite being Federal Leased Land, tend to follow with exceptions the law of the state around them.

Personally I didn't see any issue on my recent trip to AKL on the flight, and compliance in the wild in Auckland was fairly poor (I even forgot about the rules and entered a store without putting the mask on and the staff just didn't care - I suspect because it was a one man store and he didn't feel like potentially starting a confrontation).

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#2958732 24-Aug-2022 12:28

Back to my question. Can confirm that I breezed through scanning at lunch time today. Was surprised to find ~75% of the eateries to be closed at midday since the media are reporting that traveler numbers are starting to return to pre-Covid times.

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