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Topic # 242724 11-Nov-2018 17:11
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Have not travelled for the past 10 years (did it all in my youth) the wife and I flew up to wellington for the week for just a get away.


Leaving CHCH airport i scanned in our barcode at one of the many kiosks received our boarding passes and stickers to put on our checked in bags. All of this was fantastic and so easy wish they had all this stuff around 10 years ago lol.


Walked over to the boarding area had a coffee and waited for our boarding to be announced, call came we got on our plane and flew to Wellington no fuss no muss.


Coming back was a whole other story , Booked into the kiosk just fine and put our checked in bags on the conveyor and I thought oh good all sorted and we went to wander over to our gate which was 15, we actually wandered into the back of a line of at least 200 - 250 people going through security where you have to put all your stuff in a tub etc etc. 


Weather was crap and delays all over the place and so many gate changes I lost track of the bing bong sounds going off. So much confusion at the gates as gates had changed but screens had not been updated and people panicking all over the place.


We finally managed to get onto our plane which was through a gate that was marked for palmy even though we were going to CHCH and when I asked the poor lady where we were scanning out tickets why it was not updated she said sorry no idea you would probably know more than me, waited on the plane for over an hour first for 1/2 hour because they were waiting on other passengers and another 1/2 hour because of a long queue of take offs.


Sort of went way off topic in my rambling but why do you have no security to go through in CHCH but you have security you have to go through in Wellington. 





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  Reply # 2123609 11-Nov-2018 17:18
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Depends entirely upon the amount of passengers a plane can carry. If you didn't go through security for the CHC-WLG leg, I'm assuming the plane was an ATR or Q300? Going back you would have been on a jet.




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  Reply # 2123616 11-Nov-2018 17:30
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Depends entirely upon the amount of passengers a plane can carry. If you didn't go through security for the CHC-WLG leg, I'm assuming the plane was an ATR or Q300? Going back you would have been on a jet.

 

 

 

 

No they were both the exact same type of plane with same amount of people.





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  Reply # 2123618 11-Nov-2018 17:31
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Flying on a ATR zero security Flying on A320 then you go thru Security

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Edit: Well out of AKL for all my flights could be different in other regions

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  Reply # 2123619 11-Nov-2018 17:33
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I recall travelling from Chch domestic to Palmy in 2005. Had to go through a metal detector before boarding.

 

Fast forward to 2017 and travelling from the new Chch domestic terminal to Palmy. No check what-so-ever of my boarding pass, no metal detector. Go figure.


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  Reply # 2123621 11-Nov-2018 17:36
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Wellington has an ATR gate that requires you to go through security. It's just where the gate is located.

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  Reply # 2123634 11-Nov-2018 18:45
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larknz: Wellington has an ATR gate that requires you to go through security. It's just where the gate is located.

 

True, Gate 15. Forgot about that one.


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  Reply # 2123676 11-Nov-2018 18:54
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Because in NZ we have a habit of doing things in an incomplete way.  American tourists are amazed (horrified?) at the lax security at our domestic airports.


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  Reply # 2123679 11-Nov-2018 19:04
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Because in NZ we have a habit of doing things in an incomplete way.  American tourists are amazed (horrified?) at the lax security at our domestic airports.

 


I think you have that backwards. Security theatre, as performed in airports around the world is unnecessarily tedious, and fundamentally pointless. Personally I am horrified by the stories about the TSA, at America's airports. But, if it makes people feel safe they must be safe, right?


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irongarment:
amiga500:

 

Because in NZ we have a habit of doing things in an incomplete way.  American tourists are amazed (horrified?) at the lax security at our domestic airports.

 


I think you have that backwards. Security theatre, as performed in airports around the world is unnecessarily tedious, and fundamentally pointless. Personally I am horrified by the stories about the TSA, at America's airports. But, if it makes people feel safe they must be safe, right?

 

I agree with you up to a point about the relevance of security and the TSA.  However, it seems ridiculous that we security screen for the jets carrying 100 plus passengers but everyone waddles onto a ATR 72-600 that seats I think 68 people with no security.

 

 


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  Reply # 2123683 11-Nov-2018 19:40
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amiga500:

I agree with you up to a point about the relevance of security and the TSA.  However, it seems ridiculous that we security screen for the jets carrying 100 plus passengers but everyone waddles onto a ATR 72-600 that seats I think 68 people with no security.


 


What exactly are they protecting us from?

I remember travelling before 9/11, and I see no reason not to return to the level of scrutiny in place then. In fact, with modern technology it would be less invasive but equally effective. Why do I have to surrender my liquids and gels, or be exposed in the Pornoscanner?

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  Reply # 2123692 11-Nov-2018 20:10
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And how many passengers did the plane hold that was nearly "hijacked" 10 years ago?

 

 

 

Less than 100


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  Reply # 2123703 11-Nov-2018 20:22
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And how many passengers did the plane hold that was nearly "hijacked" 10 years ago?


 


Less than 100



Was it nearly "hijacked"? Or nearly hijacked? Was the perpetrator a terrorist? Or just an unhappy individual?

The single most effective deterrent to plane hijacking is lockable cockpit doors*.

The most significant terrorist incident perpetrated in New Zealand was orchestrated by the French government. I feel so much safer now that people aren't allowed to bring bottles of Evian on board.

*except when it isn't.

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  Reply # 2123704 11-Nov-2018 20:24
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And how many passengers did the plane hold that was nearly "hijacked" 10 years ago?


 


Less than 100


Less than 20 actually.



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  Reply # 2123705 11-Nov-2018 20:27
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I don't get the because it only has x people you don't need security but if it has over that it doesn't

 

What does the ATR mean sorry don't know is it the type of plane.





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  Reply # 2123715 11-Nov-2018 20:43
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Mspec: I don't get the because it only has x people you don't need security but if it has over that it doesn't

 

What does the ATR mean sorry don't know is it the type of plane. 

 

It's just the way it is here. Gangs love it as they can move drugs/money freely up and down the country through the regional airline networks without any worries about security checks.

 

ATR is an aircraft manufacturer - a number of their craft are in operation here.


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