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21brandon21

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#269748 6-Apr-2020 10:50

So with all this chaos with covid-19, any ideas of when people will be able to travel oveaseas again? I have an upcoming trip to the Philippines this June 12 and hoping there will be some positive news in being able to go by then! Any ideas of when life will resume back to being normal? Do you think my trip will be viable or will I have to delay it? Need a holiday and a break from work/New Zealand and to see my family, girlfriend and friends 😊

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#2455564 6-Apr-2020 10:53

I'd say you've got about zero chance sorry! If you did manage to go, expect to be put in self isolation when you get back for 14 days.

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#2455566 6-Apr-2020 10:56

lxsw20:

I'd say you've got about zero chance sorry! If you did manage to go, expect to be put in self isolation when you get back for 14 days.

I'd have no problem going into self isolation for 14 days coming back, I can just work from home during that time. But I really want to go for that break. June 12 too early? Still think international travel will be locked down/banned by then?

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#2455568 6-Apr-2020 11:02

Yes, this thing isn't going to go away short term. You'd likely find anything social in the Philippines is closed also so it isn't going to be much of a break. This is a global problem.

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#2455575 6-Apr-2020 11:12

i would be amazed if international travel starts before a vaccination is discovered.

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#2455576 6-Apr-2020 11:13

21brandon21:

So with all this chaos with covid-19, any ideas of when people will be able to travel oveaseas again? I have an upcoming trip to the Philippines this June 12 and hoping there will be some positive news in being able to go by then! Any ideas of when life will resume back to being normal? Do you think my trip will be viable or will I have to delay it? Need a holiday and a break from work/New Zealand and to see my family, girlfriend and friends 😊

Are you a citizen of Philippines? If not, you really need to understand that you are almost certain to have zero health insurance support in the event that you fall ill. Also, it's your life and body but I wouldn't want to take my chances with a developing country's health system during times like these, regardless of who's footing the bill.

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#2455579 6-Apr-2020 11:16

I honestly wouldn't be planning anything international until next year unless absolutely essential (family emergency).

For a start you're at risk of losing considerable amount of money as flights are going to be very unreliable and no insurance company will cover you during this time.

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#2455582 6-Apr-2020 11:19

I have colleague with husband and kid stuck in Philippines at the moment. Travel to/from Manilla is banned for the past 2+ weeks. When travell will be allowed - no one knows.

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#2455585 6-Apr-2020 11:21

With the way this thing is going, I wouldn't plan on international travel this year.

I also wouldn't want to go the Philippines any time soon - have you hear the way the Govt is planning on dealing with people that break their lockdown rules? I doubt that they'll be much more lenient directly post-lockdown.

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#2455599 6-Apr-2020 11:26

I would think that *if* international travel, particularly to somewhere like the Philippines has opened up by June, you'd have to go into quarantine there for a couple of weeks. How long were you thinking of going?

As has already been pointed out; no insurance, no guarantee of flight schedules, not much if anything open, poor health system... Stay put is my advice.

We were going to travel to Thailand in August for a family wedding. The plan was to buy tickets around the end of January. Then Covid-19 started getting crazy so we decided to hold off until the begining of April to make that purchase. Halfway through March we canned the idea of going and sent our apologies through. If that wedding goes ahead, we can attend via Skype or similar :-)

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#2455608 6-Apr-2020 11:34

Yea I've got a trip scheduled for November to the Gold Coast, for the Pan Pacific Masters Games, but I'm not counting on that happening. :(

I can see the games being cancelled plus international travel not happening then unless essential, and only to limited destinations.

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#2455674 6-Apr-2020 12:38

As somebody who normally has around of 10 trips out of NZ every year right now my expectation is that I won't be leaving NZ this year.. With the possible exception being Australia if both countries do open up trade in a few months in this part of the world.

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#2455680 6-Apr-2020 12:44

21brandon21:

lxsw20:

I'd say you've got about zero chance sorry! If you did manage to go, expect to be put in self isolation when you get back for 14 days.

I'd have no problem going into self isolation for 14 days coming back, I can just work from home during that time. But I really want to go for that break. June 12 too early? Still think international travel will be locked down/banned by then?

"But I really want to go for that break" sounds almost as bad as those people that "really wanted to go for a surf"

I don't see international travel happening for months without a 14 day wait on both ends (getting there and coming back). If the lockdown is lifted by then maybe look at a few places in NZ, god knows motel/hotel/bach etc will be hoping people take their time off around NZ and help out local places

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#2455690 6-Apr-2020 12:53

He hasn't stated which year he is travelling? I'd say June 2021 would be a fair chance. June 2020 no chance.

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#2455821 6-Apr-2020 14:25

Globally we are no where near the peak of Covid-19. This situation is likely to stick round for 1-2 years.

21brandon21:

So with all this chaos with covid-19, any ideas of when people will be able to travel oveaseas again? I have an upcoming trip to the Philippines this June 12 and hoping there will be some positive news in being able to go by then! Any ideas of when life will resume back to being normal? Do you think my trip will be viable or will I have to delay it? Need a holiday and a break from work/New Zealand and to see my family, girlfriend and friends 😊

My pick is that international travel might start ramping up again in mid to late 2021. I think the world will need to wait until an detective covid-19 cure or vaccine is discovered before normal travel can resume.

As others have said, near zero chance of traveling to the Philippines in 10 weeks. Will need to either need to delay (for at least a year), or cancel.

Obviously this situation is hard for people with family & girlfriends overseas. My wife's family is in manila, and while the situation is hard for us we are fortunate we visited at Christmas, and that they have decent fiber internet for video calls (Fortunately installed just weeks before the lock-down) - something that is rare in the Philippines. On the other hand, my in laws are high risk, and we are aware of a relative of a friend that has passed from Covid-19, so the situation is scary.

Given your strong links to the Philippines it is likely you are aware of the following. Sadly none of the below looks to get better within 10 weeks.

The situation in the Philippines is pretty bad. Currently they are sitting at 152 deaths. There are serious issues with testing capacity, so the 3246 confirmed cases is widely understood to not reflect the scale of the issue.
Philippines has banned inbound travel to foreigners from all countries with local transmission of covid-19 - If you don't have a Philippines passport (or met limited other critera)) you won't be let in.
NZ has banned inbound travel for non citizens / residents (and limited criteria) - If you don't have NZ residency or citizenship you aren't coming back
Philippines airlines have suspended all flights, they were the only airline operating directly Philippines to NZ
Transiting a third party airport is a major pain at the moment, and many of the key ones have banned transit completly.
NZ government has a "Do Not Travel" advisory against all other countries.
Travelers are basically stranded all over the world at the moment as international air travel & transit options grind to a halt.
Manila is in lockdown and has been since the 15th of march - many other areas of the Philippines have since been added - Lockdown is very strict compared to NZ, more similar to that used in china. Other than frontline workers, households are issued a single pass for the person going to get supplies. Roadblocks have been set up, and supermarkets check passes on entry. - My sister in law waited in line for 4 hours to get into the supermarket last time she went out. Anybody else outside is in violation of the lockdown, and liable for arrest. It may be in just, the president has openly disussed the option of having the armed forces shoot violators on the sopt.
Lockdown has been for long enough that the philipines should be starting to see a "flating of the curve", but they are yet to do so... The lockdown (due to end april 12) will most likely be extended.
Given that the Philippines is 3 weeks deep into lock-downs and they are yet to see the desired result, this may go on for an extended period (multiple months)

21brandon21:

I'd have no problem going into self isolation for 14 days coming back, I can just work from home during that time. But I really want to go for that break. June 12 too early? Still think international travel will be locked down/banned by then?

Yes, it is extremely likely that international travel will still be locked down / banned in 10 weeks.

There is some chance that NZ will have stamped out covid-19 by then.

If that is the case, we would need to be extremely paranoid about returning citizens. I would hope that we are not relying on self isolation at that point. - I think formal enforced quarantine would be appropriate at that stage - and for 26 days (the longest recorded incubation period), not the 14 days that seems to be the standard at the moment.

"But I really want to go for that break" - Sorry, life sucks for a lot of people at the moment.

That said, I would not consider going into a Covid-19 hot zone to be a break.

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