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#2964766 8-Sep-2022 19:18

If Putin was looking for a weaker response from UK under Liz Truss.
Especially after this.

Body of British aid worker captured by Russian proxies shows ‘signs of torture’
Paul Urey was charged with ‘mercenary activities’ by the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, who say he died of ‘stress’
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/07/body-of-british-aid-worker-captured-by-russian-proxies-shows-signs-of-torture

Shades of North Korea and Otto Warmbier
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-northkorea-detainee-idUSKCN1C22XM

Soon it will be day 200 of his 3 day war.

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#2965842 11-Sep-2022 10:00

Check out this clip of a Russian tank retreating at full speed, with troops falling off and being left behind. Then it crashes into a tree

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#2965844 11-Sep-2022 10:11

Ukraine can now exploit Russia’s confusion, but must plan carefully | Jack Watling | The Guardian

Ideally, Russian forces will enter the winter having had to significantly redeploy, with few prepared positions and vulnerable logistics, after suffering heavy losses. Persistent harassment of their supply lines while forcing them to expend resources through skirmishing should ensure that they remain cold, wet and vulnerable to exhaustion and collapse. If this can be achieved, then Ukraine can plausibly look to achieve significant gains in 2023.

For Ukraine’s international partners there are three necessary lines of effort. First, they must keep up a steady supply of military materiel through the winter. Second, they must guard against Russian unconventional warfare in their own states and manage the humanitarian challenges that will arise from winter conditions among Ukraine’s civilian population. Third, it is vital to show the Kremlin that it faces the prospect of military defeat if it persists, and to begin to convince Russian elites that withdrawal is the only means to avoid a worse outcome.

Mind you, the sentence "Offensive operations, however, depend upon concentration, tempo and surprise to succeed." should be "Defensive operations, however, depend upon concentration, tempo and surprise to succeed."

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#2965854 11-Sep-2022 11:11

Great progress!!

It is hard to imagine how bad the the Russian soldiers' morale must be (or should that be "easy to imagine"?). What possible motive can they have for getting themselves killed?

Bloody Putin.

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#2965855 11-Sep-2022 11:25

freitasm:

Ukraine can now exploit Russia’s confusion, but must plan carefully | Jack Watling | The Guardian

Ideally, Russian forces will enter the winter having had to significantly redeploy, with few prepared positions and vulnerable logistics, after suffering heavy losses. Persistent harassment of their supply lines while forcing them to expend resources through skirmishing should ensure that they remain cold, wet and vulnerable to exhaustion and collapse. If this can be achieved, then Ukraine can plausibly look to achieve significant gains in 2023.

For Ukraine’s international partners there are three necessary lines of effort. First, they must keep up a steady supply of military materiel through the winter. Second, they must guard against Russian unconventional warfare in their own states and manage the humanitarian challenges that will arise from winter conditions among Ukraine’s civilian population. Third, it is vital to show the Kremlin that it faces the prospect of military defeat if it persists, and to begin to convince Russian elites that withdrawal is the only means to avoid a worse outcome.

Mind you, the sentence "Offensive operations, however, depend upon concentration, tempo and surprise to succeed." should be "Defensive operations, however, depend upon concentration, tempo and surprise to succeed."

It's Offensive Operations.

Element of surprise and keep moving forward to maintain the initiative is one of the core principles of maneuver warfare..

Edit - After the initial breakthrough, constant forward momentum denies the enemy any chance to reform a defensive line.

That's the theory at least...

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#2965926 11-Sep-2022 19:40

Darth Putin

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#2965927 11-Sep-2022 19:50

Kyiv Post: Top Russian General Possibly Captured in Ukrainian Air Forces. Kharkiv Offensive

Ukrainian infantrymen attacking the Kharkiv Region town of Balakliya have likely captured a top Russian general in charge of half the forces deployed in Ukraine by the Kremlin.

Images closely resembling Lieutenant General Andrei Sychevoi, commander of the Russian Federation’s (RF) Group of Forces West, appeared on Ukrainian social media, and then on independent news platforms on Wednesday, September 7.

A widely-reported video shows a bound RF officer with facial features closely resembling Sychevoi’s official photographs, being interrogated by Ukraine Armed Forces (UAF) soldiers. By the evening of Thursday, September 8 independent Ukrainian news sources were reporting Sychevoi’s capture as likely, but not confirmed.

The kneeling man is shown wearing a standard-issue Russian army camouflage uniform and Lieutenant Colonel rank, without other markers. He is bleeding from a cut on his brow and does not answer UAF soldier questions.

Were General Sychevoi to be in UAF hands, he would become the highest-ranking Russian officer to become a prisoner of war since World War Two.
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#2965938 11-Sep-2022 21:52

Ukraine showing Russia how it's done. :P

NYT update reported Ukraine has advanced more than 50km behind Russian Lines

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#2965968 12-Sep-2022 08:55

Russian tactics: rain down indiscriminate death, miles from the front line.

It's would be a win-win situation, you've killed many civilians and allowing Russians migration to replace the locals, except Russia fertility is already low, and they are killing fertile Russian soldiers.

Washington Post: Eastern Ukraine towns hit in overnight strikes

...The missiles that rained down on Pokrovsk Saturday night and into the early hours of Sunday were part of a barrage of attacks on towns in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region that left at least 10 people dead Saturday, according to Donetsk governor Pavlo Kyrylenko.

...The industrial town about 40 kilometers (25 miles) from the front line had been hit twice before by missiles, in May and July, but never before by so many in one night. ...

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#2966061 12-Sep-2022 11:38

Similar to St Petersburg

Moscow Municipal Lawmakers Demand Putin's Resignation
https://www.rferl.org/a/moscow-municipal-lawmakers-demand-putin-resignation/32027762.html

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Municipal deputies in the Moscow district of Lomonosovsky have appealed to Russian President Vladimir Putin to resign, saying "everything went wrong" since the start of his second term and they believe a change of power is necessary for the sake of the country.
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Is the iceberg making cracking noises and about to roll over ?

Russia's long and continuing history with brutality dampens optimism.
When it happens hopefully most of the people that are around Putin get cleared out.

Our rockets fly far but our asses are bare.
We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.

This is about people in Ukraine trying to live in shattered buildings as summer ends.
How do people live in buildings destroyed by the Russians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWk3Yuu2fxM

People of Nikopol under regular barrage, having to drive deep into countryside to sleep in the open or forests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYg8F_Ta9k4

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#2966497 13-Sep-2022 08:32

Wow. Well-known pundits openly discussing on Russian TV that they may have got it wrong...

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#2966511 13-Sep-2022 09:29

Gurezaemon:

Wow. Well-known pundits openly discussing on Russian TV that they may have got it wrong...

At least that shows there is some dissent being openly broadcast. Quite scary to see the attitudes of some of them though

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#2966514 13-Sep-2022 09:44

I just found this gem on Politico:

Johannes Varwick, a German political scientist who has been pouring cold water on Ukraine’s prospects across the country’s media for months, went even darker.

“Unpopular opinion,” he wrote on Twitter. “In my view, the reports of Ukrainian military success don’t change the big picture: Russia (unfortunately) has escalation dominance and in the medium term higher stamina. There is no alternative to a political reconciliation of interests.”

Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany Andrij Melnyk offered his own frank assessment in response: “Unpopular opinion: F*** off.”

Is Germany going to be on the wrong side of history again?

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#2966527 13-Sep-2022 10:46

Germany Sigh...
According to surveys there is large public support to go much further to support Ukraine.
Hangover from the old East German guard that Russia cultivated so well ?

Meanwhile as each town and village gets liberated more evidence of brutality found.
Butcha is repeated across Ukraine.

Abductions and feared mass grave of Russian invaders' victims in liberated Vysokopillia (Kherson oblast)
https://khpg.org/en/1608811136

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She says that she knows that the Russians did go around homes, robbing people. They had, she adds, a “specific perception regarding what they were doing” and claimed that they were “liberating us from bourgeois and kulaks.” This term is that which the Soviet regime used when purging those villagers who might simply have done well for themselves by hard work. It is disturbingly appropriate for the mentality of the invaders who assumed that any successful businesspeople must have got rich dishonestly. “They couldn’t even comprehend that these were businesspeople who had earned their money through honest work”.
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People began disappearing immediately, both in Vysokopillia and other villages in the Hromada. Hanna Shostak-Kuchmiak says that she was told by locals that the Russians were killing people and hiding the bodies in the basement of a house occupied by one elderly man living alone.
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She tried to persuade the elderly man to at least move somewhere else, to relatives or out of the Hromada, since the Russians knew that he was a witness and might kill him. Unfortunately, she says, he refused to leave and was later killed by the Russians.
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#2966590 13-Sep-2022 12:15

“Unpopular opinion,” he wrote on Twitter. “In my view, the reports of Ukrainian military success don’t change the big picture: Russia (unfortunately) has escalation dominance and in the medium term higher stamina. There is no alternative to a political reconciliation of interests.”

There's not much point getting upset about the opinion of one or two commentators. I wonder if this opinion is misinterpreted. "Political reconciliation" can just as easily mean a change in position on either side.

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