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#3495837 27-May-2026 13:35

kingdragonfly:
gzt: Among the deplorables ... claims jews are waiting for a christian antichrist

"Jews are waiting for a Christian antichrist" is a textbook antisemitic trope.

It falsely claims Jews are aligned with an evil figure, and are secretly plotting the downfall of Christianity.

Christian eschatology does assign roles to Jews at the Second coming, including the red heifer ritual, and the Third Temple, and Jews directly confronted by Jesus.

But importantly these are Christian beliefs about Jews.

(I'm intentionally leaving out return of Jews to Israel / Zionism because it's complex)

They do realize Jesus was around 5'2" / 157 cm with Jew of Middle Eastern birth. He was not of northern European appearance, and I don't remember seeing Jesus being albino in the Bible.

And the term “antichrist” was first written into the Bible about 65 years after Jesus’s death, and only by John four times.

"Antichrist" is a Christian theological concept, not Jewish.

I tend to avoid these discussions because I don't feel I have anything to contribute other than another uninformed opinion. I am not Jewish, I have not studied theology, and my knowledge of religious history is limited, to say the least.

But I do have what some might term a left/progressive perspective and so I do have an uninformed opinion. I think a huge problem is that many people seem unable to distinguish between Jews and Israel. The two are not the same. My understanding, admittedly limited, is that Jewishness is a religion and culture, Israel a country. The two overlap but are not the same. Blaming Jewish people wherever they live for Israeli political policies, is incorrect and stupid. I believe the actions of Israel in Gaza and elsewhere are criminal and abhorrent, but I do not comprehend what that has to do with Jewish people and their families peacefully celebrating a religious holiday in Australia or the USA. People who make this connection must have some kind of mental deficiency. Jews in or out of Israel may or may not support Israel's policies, but even if they do, threatening them or anyone else with violence can never be acceptable. It is the last resort of the stupid.

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#3495875 27-May-2026 14:56

Rikkitic:

I tend to avoid these discussions because I don't feel I have anything to contribute other than another uninformed opinion. I am not Jewish, I have not studied theology, and my knowledge of religious history is limited, to say the least.

But I do have what some might term a left/progressive perspective and so I do have an uninformed opinion. I think a huge problem is that many people seem unable to distinguish between Jews and Israel. The two are not the same. My understanding, admittedly limited, is that Jewishness is a religion and culture, Israel a country. The two overlap but are not the same. Blaming Jewish people wherever they live for Israeli political policies, is incorrect and stupid. I believe the actions of Israel in Gaza and elsewhere are criminal and abhorrent, but I do not comprehend what that has to do with Jewish people and their families peacefully celebrating a religious holiday in Australia or the USA. People who make this connection must have some kind of mental deficiency. Jews in or out of Israel may or may not support Israel's policies, but even if they do, threatening them or anyone else with violence can never be acceptable. It is the last resort of the stupid.

Agree fully with what you have said.

For myself I am agnostic. I may not believe in A Religion, but I do have Faith.

I have Faith in those I love. I have Faith in my Family. I have Faith in others whose Faith is the same as mine.

Faith is profoundly individualistic and immutable and incorruptible.
Religion is a social construct,
made by Man for Man to explain Faith,
therefore it is fallible.

Do I have Faith that the people of Israel and the rest of the Middle East will do the right thing and respect and honour each other's Religion, no I do not, because Religion is fallible? It is easily misinterpreted to suit the requirements of the political and personal needs and wants of the time.

Do I have Faith in Trump and his respective arse lickers, no I do not, because these people are in it for themselves and no one else. Trump swore a pledge when he took office. Unfortunately, in his mind it went something like this; "...to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect, defend and enrich me and my family and faithful believers in Me." Trump is his own faith!

The Christian Bible has gone through many rewrites and editions to fulfil the political and greed purposes of the time, and Trump is trying to do the same thing with Executive Powers and branches of government for his own purposes.

As a side note: The Quran has had hardly any changes from the original edition.

Whilst I can understand that Israel wants national and regional security and stability so it can obtain international recognition of its own sovereignty, a highly ambitious aim it has always wanted since foundation in 1948. But because the Israelites and Arabs have always contested historical and ancestral claims on this area of the Middle East, this is a contention that will never be solved, with Jerusalem being the most hotly contested area of it all. And people like Trump will use this for their own nefarious purposes. Just look at the oil index and stock exchanges over the last 6 weeks and over his entire term so far.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3500656 5-Jun-2026 20:36

Huh, I thought New Zealand was Peter Theil bolt-hole / bug out point.

He co-founded the notorious Palantir which bypasses the Fourth Amendment, the U.S. constitutional amendment that protects American citizens from illegal government surveillance, but not corporate surveillance years before he came a citizen. See the The New York Times, The Washington Post, "ACLU" and "Electronic Frontier Foundation" for more info on Palantir alleged US government overreach.

Locally New Zealand’s Security Intelligence Service (SIS), Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB), and Defence Force have all been documented as Palantir clients. They have used Palantir’s data‑analysis tools, and even job postings referenced Palantir skill requirements.

You'll remember Peter was granted New Zealand citizenship on 30 June 2011, under the “exceptional circumstances” provision of the Citizenship Act. The clause is intended for public‑interest cases, often humanitarian or otherwise exceptional.

Peter Theil is an expert on the anti-Christ, and talks publicly about the anti-Christ frequently is exceptional, so that checks out.

Minister of Internal Affairs was Nathan Guy, under Prime Minister John Key. Nathan Guy said "great ambassador and salesperson for New Zealand." Funny, the only time in the last 10 years Peter has mentioned New Zealand was a Joe Rogan podcast: Thiel mentions NZ as a preferred destination when possibly leaving California and said "strong preference for New Zealand." That's it. One time in 10 years. That's his "great ambassador and salesperson for New Zealand."

Peter Thiel's move to Argentina reflects a growing trend among billionaires seeking a 'plan B' abroad: Business Insider

Peter Thiel appears to have found a new bug-out spot. He isn't alone in looking beyond America's shores.

The PayPal and Palantir cofounder and prominent libertarian has been spending more time in Argentina, The New York Times reported, where he has enrolled his children in school and bought a home in one of Buenos Aires' wealthiest neighborhoods.

Among the ultrawealthy, that fits a larger pattern. The rich are treating their lives in America like part of an investment portfolio: still worth betting on, but increasingly in need of a hedge.

"There's a clear trend toward sovereign diversification," Charlie Garcia, founder of centimillionaire membership club R360, said, including "multiple passports, multiple tax regimes, and at least one 'Plan B' jurisdiction in the Southern Hemisphere."

There are plenty of places competing to become the new billionaire hot spot. Last year, New Zealand saw a spike in American applications after relaxing rules around its golden visa investment program. Costa Rica and Thailand have also seen jumps in the number of high-earning migrants.
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#3500657 5-Jun-2026 20:41

The thing about the rules being relaxed is that some millionaires already complained about the existing tax regime making it "harder" for them to invest.

The vultures basically just want another tax free country. And the current government might do it. You know, for the rich.

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#3500659 5-Jun-2026 20:55

Could they revoke his citizenship? I mean, it's not like he's really lived here or contributed much (if anything) to the economy, right? (as kingdragonfly points out above - he's hardly been a cheerleader for the country or anything).

What purpose does him having citizenship serve?

My partner has lived here for years, contributed to the economy, assimilated, etc. She has citizenship - but I feel like she earned it, as opposed to buying it.

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#3501188 8-Jun-2026 08:47

Farage and the usual mob are hard at work after a sadly typical knife crime murder in the UK. Knife crime is huge in the UK and has been for many years now. In this case the assailant happened to be a Sikh. At the center of it is a bogus claim that the murder weapon has a religious exemption.

As almost any Sikh can tell you - the murder weapon in this case was not a Kirtan. The murder weapon in this case has a straight blade. A Kirtan definitely does not look like that.

Coincidently the assailant was carrying a Kirtan and it was not used in the attack. As you might expect when Farage and Robinson are involved in anything, there are now some random attacks and abuse of Sikhs. It is not helped by inaccurate media media reporting absolutely all over the place from the very start failing to establish basic facts.

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#3502589 13-Jun-2026 10:33

South Korea's President Yoon Suk Yeol sentenced to 30 years jail for plot to provoke a DPRK response then declare martial law to avoid an election loss:

BBC: Seoul District Court found Yoon, as well as his former defense minister Kim Yong-hyun, former head of the Defense Counterintelligence Command Yeo In-hyung and former head of Drone Operations Commands Kim Yong-dae guilty of treason and abuse of power. Kim was sentenced to 30 years in jail, while Yeo received 15 years and Kim Yong-dae received three years in prison with a five-year suspended sentence. "The defendants used the guise of a military operation to induce provocations from North Korea with the aim of creating a state of emergency," the court said.

Cronies jailed too. That's a big win for South Korean democracy. Congratulations to the people of South Korea!

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#3510864 13-Jul-2026 08:56

Possibly one of the better (and factual) eulogies I've seen online for Lindsey Graham (from The Other 98%):

Lindsey Graham is dead at 71. In 2016, he dared America on camera: "Use my words against me." This is his obituary. These are his words.

The facts first, plainly. Graham died Saturday night at his Washington home of what his office calls a brief and sudden illness. He served four terms, chaired the Judiciary and Budget committees, and spent decades as one of the loudest voices in American foreign policy.

By sunrise the whitewash had begun. Trump declared him a "true American Patriot." Netanyahu called him a beloved friend. The eulogies will tell you about his service.

They will not tell you about the ledger. So we will.

In December 2015, Graham looked into a camera and called Donald Trump a "race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot." By February 2016: "I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy." That May he wrote: "If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed... and we will deserve it." He refused to vote for him.

Then Trump won, and Lindsey Graham discovered golf.

By late 2017 he was scolding the media for calling the president, yes, really, a kook.

His best friend was John McCain, a man Trump mocked for being captured in Vietnam and kept mocking after he was dead. Graham wept for McCain on the Senate floor, then deepened his devotion to the man who spat on his grave.

The words he wanted used came in 2016, when he swore that if a Supreme Court seat opened in an election year, the next president should fill it. In 2018 he repeated the promise and added: "hold the tape." In October 2020, as Judiciary chairman, he rammed Amy Coney Barrett onto the Court eight days before the election.

In November 2020, Georgia's Republican secretary of state said Graham had called him asking about tossing legally cast mail ballots. Graham denied it, fought the grand jury subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court, and lost.

On January 6th, with the glass still on the Capitol floor, he announced: "Count me out. Enough is enough." He was back at Mar-a-Lago within months.
He cheered the country into Iran. Three weeks ago he was on television promising that if diplomacy failed, Trump was "going to take the Strait of Hormuz."

Honesty requires one more line: he was, to the end, one of Ukraine's most reliable champions in the Senate, and he died the day after standing beside Zelensky in Kyiv. Even a ledger this dark has an entry in the other column.

But the ledger is the legacy. A man who saw exactly what Trump was, said so in the plainest English of his era, and then spent nine years kneeling to it for relevance.

He asked us to use his words against him.
Consider them used.

May be an image of the Oval Office

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#3511080 13-Jul-2026 16:45

Another one (obituary? eulogy?), arguably this one is a bit more scathing: https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/lindsey-graham-legacy/

He [Graham] became a fixture on Trump's golf course, bragged about how often the two talked, and as recently as this past May was on Fox News suggesting Trump deserved a prize named after himself, "the Trump Prize," for a Middle East deal that hadn't even happened yet. And will likely never happen, due in no small part to Graham.

He continued to support Trump’s epic and historic failure of a war in Iran, even saying, "I go back to South Carolina, I'm asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Middle East."

It proved Graham would throw his own constituents under the bus - literally in this case - to keep in Trump's good graces.

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#3511218 14-Jul-2026 12:08

This is exactly what war criminals all over the world would want to do...

Marco Rubio launches campaign to dismantle international criminal court | Marco Rubio | The Guardian

Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state, launched a campaign to dismantle the International criminal court (ICC) on Monday, claiming that the global tribunal was interfering with US military and law enforcement operations at the risk of American sovereignty.

Rubio invoked images of US Border Patrol agents and elected leaders being “dragged before an international court” and tried by judges from around the world in a lengthy op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal Monday.

“If we stand idle, all of them will be at the mercy of foreign judges, thousands of miles away – facing the constant risk of prosecution and even imprisonment for the so-called ‘crime’ of defending their own country,” Rubio warned in a companion video posted to X.

The state department plan to “dismantle” the ICC will involve pressuring other nations to abandon the court, according to CNN. “Nations that refuse to reject the ICC’s false authority while relying on US assistance are likely to come under increased scrutiny,” an official told the outlet, adding that possible punishments could involve sanctions, travel bans and visa revocations.

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#3512323 18-Jul-2026 08:02

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/billy-te-kahika-jnr-in-hospital-after-heart-attack/D2BPLEIGUVCRZDXMRXMTQNEQYI/

Billy Te Kahika jnr, the musician, Covid-19 conspiracy theorist and failed political candidate, is recovering in Auckland City Hospital after suffering a heart attack.

I find it highly ironic that such a rabid anti-vaxxer who preached that people shouldn't get the vaccine, the second he has a heart attack...turns to medical science for help 🙄

I would have thought he would have deployed his "thoughts and prayers"-type mantra he used to preach instead? 🤷‍♂️

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#3512372 18-Jul-2026 13:04

Very ironic. While recovering, he has lots of time to do his own 'resurch'.

Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is knowing not to put it in fruit salad.

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#3512373 18-Jul-2026 13:05

I thought the covid vaccine caused heart attacks? So if he didn't have it then why did he have one? 😉

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#3512543 19-Jul-2026 07:16

The NY Times - MyPillow Founder Not Registered to Vote in State He Wants to Lead (unlocked link)

18 July 2026

Mike Lindell, the chief executive of MyPillow and a leader of the election denial movement who was endorsed by President Trump for Minnesota governor this week, acknowledged that he is not registered to vote in the state he seeks to lead.

But Mr. Lindell, 65, said his biggest problem was not his registration status but that the Minnesota Republican Party had not supported his campaign, even after Mr. Trump publicly endorsed him.

One idiot endorsed by another idiot. 🙃

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