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  #2549115 24-Aug-2020 22:19
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nathan: The President is still in charge until Inauguration which marks the beginning of a sane President on January 20.

 

FTFY.  Always optimistic.

 

 


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  #2549213 25-Aug-2020 08:13
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SJB:

Does anybody know how much governing power the President and his Adminstration has between the result of the election and Inauguration Day?


Someone as petty and vindictive as Chump could create havoc in the intervening period if he still has power to do so.


 



Usually a "lame duck" politician admits defeat, or his base moves on.

We've already seen Trump floating the idea multiple times of postponing the election, and already beating the "the other side is cheating, so if I lose the election is invalid."

I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks Trump will suddenly act with dignity and grace.

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  #2549214 25-Aug-2020 08:14
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Tweats before Trump won. My favorite

This election is being rigged by the media pushing false and unsubstantiated charges, and outright lies, in order to elect Crooked Hillary!

Others

Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!

Ted Cruz is a cheater! He holds the Bible high and then lies and misrepresents the facts!

Wow, just announced that Lyin' Ted and Kasich are going to collude in order to keep me from getting the Republican nomination. DESPERATION!The media and establishment want me out of the race so badly - I WILL NEVER DROP OUT OF THE RACE, WILL NEVER LET MY SUPPORTERS DOWN!

If I win-I am going to instruct my AG to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation bc there's never been anything like your lies.

Disloyal R's are far more difficult than Crooked Hillary. They come at you from all sides. They don’t know how to win - I will teach them!

The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House wait so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?

It was just announced-by sources-that no charges will be brought against Crooked Hillary Clinton. Like I said, the system is totally rigged!

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  #2549223 25-Aug-2020 08:54
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kingdragonfly:

Usually a "lame duck" politician admits defeat, or his base moves on.
 
We've already seen Trump floating the idea multiple times of postponing the election, and already beating the "the other side is cheating, so if I lose the election is invalid."

I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks Trump will suddenly act with dignity and grace.

 

Trump didn't run, on having any dignity or grace (!)

 

Swing states Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin likely decide the electoral college this time, and its likely we won't know the result on election night

 

We've already seen Dems say Russia is rigging votes, and so if they lose the election is invalid


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  #2549232 25-Aug-2020 09:07
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nathan:

 

We've already seen Dems say Russia is rigging votes, and so if they lose the election is invalid

 

 

They said that last time - the senate report confirms they were correct - including that there was collusion between the campaign and Russians connected to Putin - but no serious argument that the election was "invalid".  A dirty crook had been elected by a minority, then protected by a majority who weren't elected on the basis of universal suffrage - but that one citizen's vote could be worth 70 times more than another citizen's. 

 

 


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  #2549285 25-Aug-2020 11:02
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I wonder what will happen to the Republicans if he loses. He's such a suffocating presence, with any criticism or opposition from his own side simply shouted down that you never really hear about anybody else the party could regroup around.

 

If you take the last UK election Labour with Corbyn were running with an extreme left wing agenda and lost really badly. They seem to have dumped all that now and reverted to a left of centre approach.

 

Could the Republican party do the same and revert to right of centre rather that extreme right or are they too far gone.


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  #2549319 25-Aug-2020 11:42
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SJB:

 

Does anybody know how much governing power the President and his Adminstration has between the result of the election and Inauguration Day?

 

Someone as petty and vindictive as Chump could create havoc in the intervening period if he still has power to do so.

 

 

Trump and the Senate will still have all the power they have now. Just nothing to risk as they are on their way out. I wouldn't be suprised to see a bunch of stuff rushed through like in Wisconsin in 2018 where the state leglisature and outgoing Republican Scott Walker stripped a lot of power off the Governor's office after a Democrat won the governeratorial election https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/4/18123784/gop-legislature-wisconsin-michigan-power-grab-lame-duck

 

 


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  #2549390 25-Aug-2020 12:16
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Read a similar based article yesterday re citizens supportung Biden even though they are Republicans. Took with a few grains of salt though, but this seems big

 

 

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/300090475/go-joe-former-republican-lawmakers-say-theyll-support-joe-biden-over-donald-trump


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  #2549401 25-Aug-2020 12:25
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tdgeek:

 

Read a similar based article yesterday re citizens supportung Biden even though they are Republicans. Took with a few grains of salt though, but this seems big

 

 

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/300090475/go-joe-former-republican-lawmakers-say-theyll-support-joe-biden-over-donald-trump

 

 

anything to defeat Trump, no morals or ethics or policies or memories required - welcoming enablers of George Bush's failed wars, and deficit hawks into the Democratic party.  The party in 2020 certainly is a 'big tent and all sorts of folks fit underneath it'.


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  #2549402 25-Aug-2020 12:27
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nathan:

 

anything to defeat Trump, no morals or ethics or policies or memories required - welcoming enablers of George Bush's failed wars, and deficit hawks into the Democratic party.  The party in 2020 certainly is a 'big tent and all sorts of folks fit underneath it'.

 

 

Trump and the current GOP have no moral, ethics, policies or memories.





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  #2549406 25-Aug-2020 12:36
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SJB:

 

Could the Republican party do the same and revert to right of centre rather that extreme right or are they too far gone.

 

 

Dems already taking up that space - right of center.  Dems are regressive, Republicans conservative.

 

Workers are divided on purpose, the white workers vote republican, the brown & black workers vote Democrat, they both fight over suburban white votes, and the elites and the establishment always win because nothing ever changes, and 100M don't vote at all because ¯_ (ツ)_/¯

 

Statistically with the changing face of America, Republicans will have to change, before they are too far gone


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#2549412 25-Aug-2020 12:45
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Varkk:

 

Trump and the Senate will still have all the power they have now. Just nothing to risk as they are on their way out. I wouldn't be suprised to see a bunch of stuff rushed through

 

My bet is nothing happens.  An Executive order, can be undone, with a signature by Biden on Day ~1.

 

Senate won't pass anything, they won't even pass a pandemic relief bill to help American workers and families, probably the one thing they could do to save Trump - spend money in a pandemic, but their ideology blinds them. 29M adults not enough food, 15M renters behind on rent, Trumps new $300 unemployment benefit lasts 3 weeks, poverty rates above great recession levels; but she'll be right mate...


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  #2549414 25-Aug-2020 12:48
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freitasm:  Trump and the current GOP have no moral, ethics, policies or memories.

 

 





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  #2549419 25-Aug-2020 13:00
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BBC News - Republican National Convention: Trump warns of 'rigged election'

 

today

 


US President Donald Trump has warned his fellow Republicans their opponents may "steal" November's election, as his party anointed him as their candidate.

 

"They're using Covid to defraud the American people," Mr Trump told delegates on the first day of the party convention in North Carolina.

 

Mr Trump repeated his much-disputed claims that mail-in ballots could lead to voter fraud.

 

Addressing delegates in person at a party conference that has been dramatically scaled down by Covid-19, Mr Trump accused Democrats of "using Covid to steal an election".

 

"The only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election," he said. "We're going to win."  ...

 



 





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  #2549425 25-Aug-2020 13:22
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Watch this:

 





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