Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2549537 25-Aug-2020 15:24

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Could the Republican party do the same and revert to right of centre rather that extreme right or are they too far gone.

I don't think any party ever dampened supporter enthusiasm or lost votes by going more extreme right. They've found a formula that works, as many past politicians did, I can't see them abandoning it. In this case they also have the enthusiastic support of right-wing outrage factories like Fox and OANN and their large viewer base, which makes the decision even easier.

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#2549558 25-Aug-2020 15:53

The Washington Post - The Democrats’ roll call showed America’s beauty and diversity. The Republicans’ roll call ... did not.

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The roll call on opening day of the Republican National Convention was sleepy. Low energy. And sad. ...

In essence, it was White men in a room simplifying complex issues and repeatedly pledging their fealty to guns, fetuses and the importance of kneeling to pray and standing for the national anthem.

It was Trumpian politics as television. And it was dismal. ...

[Trump] settled in behind the lectern and began to riff. ... telling his faithful that victory already belongs to them, in the same way that the suburbs belong to them, and the country belongs to them, and God belongs to them, too. ...

Trump talked on and on. ...

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#2549559 25-Aug-2020 15:54

Two Of Donald Trump's Sisters Speak Out About The President

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#2549561 25-Aug-2020 15:59

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In essence, it was White men in a room simplifying complex issues and repeatedly pledging their fealty to guns, fetuses, the importance of kneeling to pray and standing for the national anthem.

... and of course securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

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#2549602 25-Aug-2020 16:50

I agree with Trump!

"This is the most important election in the history of our country,"

As I've often said, a broken clock is correct twice a day.

The Hill: On The Trail: Why 2020 is the most important election in our lifetime

...The presidential contest alone will represent perhaps the starkest choice between two competing visions for the nation’s future since the elections of 1860 that set the Union on course for a civil war.

President Trump has governed in his first term as a fierce culture warrior, intent on reshaping American government and refocusing its foreign policy in an unprecedented manner....

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#2549607 25-Aug-2020 17:05

Representative Matt Gaetz (Republican Florida), one of the president’s staunchest defenders in Congress, said Democrats want to “disarm you, empty the prisons, lock you in your home, and invite MS-13 to live next door. And the defunded police aren’t on their way.”

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#2549609 25-Aug-2020 17:11

Democrats welcomed the arrival of the Republican National Convention with a new television ad accusing Trump of “job-destroying incompetence and deadly mismanagement” of the pandemic.

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#2549610 25-Aug-2020 17:24

kingdragonfly: Democrats welcomed the arrival of the Republican National Convention with a new television ad accusing Trump of “job-destroying incompetence and deadly mismanagement” of the pandemic.

I'm not the target audience but it didn't do much for me. Kind of gloomy, which the Republicans already have a corner on. Say what can be better, don't dwell on what is worse.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2549617 25-Aug-2020 18:01

Wrong caption much?

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#2549622 25-Aug-2020 18:14

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Wrong caption much?

Naah, it's just fulfilling Trevor Noah's comment about Trump.

"What I'm trying to say is Donald Trump is presidential. He just happens to be running on the wrong continent," he said.

"In fact, once you realize that Trump is the perfect African president, you start to notice the similarities everywhere"

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#2549628 25-Aug-2020 18:56

BBC News - Donald Trump Jr: The son who is Trumpier than Trump

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On the first night of the Republican Party convention, the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, took centre stage and commanded the nation's attention.

"Trump's policies have been like rocket fuel to the economy," Mr Trump said during his speech, praising his father's leadership.

But his most powerful lines were not about his the president; they were swipes at Joe Biden ...

"Biden's radical left-wing policies would stop our economic recovery cold," Mr Trump said.

"Biden has promised to take that money back out of your pocket and keep it in the Swamp."

"That makes sense, considering Joe Biden is basically the Loch Ness Monster of the Swamp. For the past half-century, he's been lurking around in there." ...

Oh, the irony - "The Loch Ness Monster of the Swamp" is a perfect description of Donald Trump Senior. 😕

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#2549639 25-Aug-2020 19:25

Rikkitic:
I'm not the target audience but it didn't do much for me. Kind of gloomy, which the Republicans already have a corner on. Say what can be better, don't dwell on what is worse.

Its the American 2-party-system doom-loop, that causes, then reinforces this rank tribalism

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#2549710 26-Aug-2020 06:32

freitasm:

Trump and the current GOP have no moral, ethics, policies or memories.

So much for Dems going all out to get Republicans and shunning their own progressives
Only 5% of Republicans say they’re voting for Joe Biden.

Right now that’s lower than the 8% of Republicans who voted for Obama in 2008, 6% of Republicans who voted for Obama in 2012, and 7% of Republicans who voted for Hillary Clinton.

edit: you're right, I should reference the poll: Latest CBS News Poll

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#2549712 26-Aug-2020 07:42

Depends which poll. This one says 11%. Taking your unsourced comparison stats, it's a higher crossover than Obama:

https://www.newsweek.com/11-republicans-say-theyll-vote-biden-while-8-dems-will-vote-trump-1526037

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#2550001 26-Aug-2020 13:41

New York Times: Pompeo to Deliver R.N.C. Speech From Israel, With Eye Toward 2024

WASHINGTON — In planning to address the Republican Party faithful on Tuesday night from one of the world’s holiest cities, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is betting that he has more to gain politically than he would lose by challenging decades of diplomatic decorum.

...Mr. Pompeo has been under criticism since it became clear several days ago that he would be giving the speech while on an official diplomatic trip... It will be the first time in at least 75 years, by Mr. Beschloss’s count, that a sitting secretary of state has addressed a national convention to nominate a party’s presidential candidate.

“And that was not by accident,” Mr. Beschloss said. “There was a feeling that foreign policy should be sacrosanct, and that secretaries of state should not be mixing that directly in domestic politics.”

For nearly a year, Democrats in Congress have accused Mr. Pompeo of violating the federal Hatch Act, which prohibits federal employees from engaging in political activities while on the job, by using taxpayer-funded government aircraft and hosting receptions at the State Department to further his political ambitions.

...Stuart Stevens, is a Republican political consultant and former top strategist to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign in 2012, , who is now advising the Lincoln Project, a campaign of Republicans who oppose Mr. Trump’s re-election. “This is not going to be a convention that people are going to look back on and be glad they were associated with it,” said Mr. Stevens, who is now advising the Lincoln Project, a campaign of Republicans who oppose Mr. Trump’s re-election.

He said Mr. Pompeo’s decision to deliver the speech — and the appearance of impropriety associated with it — could pose a problem with centrist Republicans. “I think most Americans care about not breaking the law, and it will be a negative for him,” Mr. Stevens said.

Since becoming America’s top diplomat in 2018, Mr. Pompeo has positioned himself as the most forceful defender of the president’s national security policy. The vast majority of Mr. Trump’s diplomatic priorities, however, have fallen flat.

Negotiations to freeze and dismantle North Korea’s nuclear program have stalled. The Trump administration’s so-called maximum pressure campaign to force Iran into a new nuclear deal has isolated the United States from its staunchest European allies. Efforts to force President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela from power have so far failed.

Mr. Trump also appears to have set aside his ambition to strike the “deal of the century” for peace between Israel and Palestinians. Instead, he and Mr. Pompeo are trumpeting the accord reached this month between Israel and the United Arab Emirates to normalize relations.

It is that deal that Mr. Pompeo is expected to highlight in his speech Tuesday, along with the Trump administration’s other efforts to support Israel, including moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem and recognizing the Golan Heights as Israeli territory. On Tuesday, before his speech was to be broadcast at the Republican convention, Mr. Pompeo traveled to Sudan and Bahrain, both of which are also considering diplomatic ties with Israel.

For Mr. Pompeo, an evangelical Christian, bolstering Israel serves dual purposes. Not only does it help protect America’s strongest ally in the volatile Middle East, but it also appeals to white evangelical voters, a critical part of Mr. Trump’s base.

“By speaking in Jerusalem, he is speaking to the evangelical segment of the Republican Party,” said Tamara Cofman Wittes, a former deputy assistant secretary of state for Middle East policy during the Obama administration who is now at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
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