Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2597738 4-Nov-2020 16:39

I should have added, I'm not in the least bit surprised if he gets 4 more years.

All of the vibes I've got from people I know personally who have either been to the US in the last year or so and the people I know that live there say Trump was likely to win.

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#2597739 4-Nov-2020 16:43

DS248:

Meanwhile on Worldometers

USA 'yesterday': 94,463 new cases & 1,199 deaths
Same day last week: 75,072 new cases & 1,039 deaths (& 3 days later 101,461 cases)

So an increase of almost 20k in a week. 110k+ mark in the next few days?

Well the POTUS doesn't care, and neither do about 1/2 US voters, apparently.

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#2597740 4-Nov-2020 16:45

Rikkitic:

This is starting to look to me like the worst of all possible results - a dead heat, or close to it. Look forward to years of litigation and gun battles.

This likely won't be decided today. Pennsylvania is likely the winner take all state and there are 274k postal ballots in Philadelphia that won't be counted until tomorrow.

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#2597743 4-Nov-2020 16:50

Technofreak:

I should have added, I'm not in the least bit surprised if he gets 4 more years.

All of the vibes I've got from people I know personally who have either been to the US in the last year or so and the people I know that live there say Trump was likely to win.

I think it could be very close, and we may not know for a while, but wouldn't be surprised if Trump sneaks in.

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#2597745 4-Nov-2020 16:51

Fred99:

DS248:

Meanwhile on Worldometers

USA 'yesterday': 94,463 new cases & 1,199 deaths
Same day last week: 75,072 new cases & 1,039 deaths (& 3 days later 101,461 cases)

So an increase of almost 20k in a week. 110k+ mark in the next few days?

Well the POTUS doesn't care, and neither do about 1/2 US voters, apparently.

I am guessing over half the voters will have voted for Biden.

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#2597748 4-Nov-2020 17:00

mattwnz:

I am guessing over half the voters will have voted for Biden.

I guess so. Just a gut feeling that Republicans in swing states were super motivated and those are the votes that count. My guess is a Trump win, with an even smaller popular vote % than 2016.

It looks like they'll also maintain a senate majority - and that means "Trump Unleashed" with an AG acting as his private attorney, a stacked supreme court, and no chance of any of them being convicted if impeached, he'll do anything he wants to do - an untouchable supreme leader.

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#2597750 4-Nov-2020 17:09

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#2597753 4-Nov-2020 17:16

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I guess so. Just a gut feeling that Republicans in swing states were super motivated and those are the votes that count. My guess is a Trump win, with an even smaller popular vote % than 2016.

It looks like they'll also maintain a senate majority - and that means "Trump Unleashed" with an AG acting as his private attorney, a stacked supreme court, and no chance of any of them being convicted if impeached, he'll do anything he wants to do - an untouchable supreme leader.

Bit early to say. Postal votes favour Biden, but some states count them first, or during or last. One state, I forget has Biden a bit behind, but hardly any postal votes have been counted, its all over the place. If they counted the votes in the same sequence for every state it wouldn't take too long to get a good feel. They have not counted many Philly postal votes, a few hundred thousand, they are behind on those. For Pennsylvania, over one million postals yet to be counted. Last election, they knew where the remaining votes ere coming from, so easy-ish to estimate the result.

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#2597755 4-Nov-2020 17:22

mattwnz:

Technofreak:

Four more years

At least he will only get 4 and that will be it, unless he tries to change things. Hope his son isn't then going to stand. Some people in the US must be very disillusioned .

I just can't believe they didn't put someone stronger up against Trump. Although Biden is quite old, he looks frail, and would doubt he would do 2 terms. Hillary had too much baggage and wasn't that likable and they would have had to break the glass ceiling, even though she did get more votes than Trump. Biden is more likable, but frail, and makes a lot of gaffs. Michelle Obama would have been good, and has her husbands personality, but there is the glass ceiling they would need to break.

Fingers crossed for a change.

You haven't thought about Don Trump Jr / Kushner / Ivanka running in 2024 .. and beyond ...

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#2597762 4-Nov-2020 18:15

Batman:

You haven't thought about Don Trump Jr / Kushner / Ivanka running in 2024 .. and beyond ...

Ivanka 2024 has been an openly expressed Trump wet dream since 2016.

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#2597765 4-Nov-2020 18:30

Technofreak:

I should have added, I'm not in the least bit surprised if he gets 4 more years.

All of the vibes I've got from people I know personally who have either been to the US in the last year or so and the people I know that live there say Trump was likely to win.

I am not surprised either. Everybody keeps taunting him, all the polls/CNN say Biden will win, but it seems nobody learnt anything from 2016.

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#2597766 4-Nov-2020 18:37

Watching CNN ... they are still hoping for Biden ... it so literally hoping they are saying it

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#2597767 4-Nov-2020 18:38

Watching Fox news and it's actually neutral commentary!

Edit - ah that's their political commentator. The hosts of the show just challenged him. "Are you sure?" then then pushed him. Then the commentator said "i can't say any more otherwise the bosses will kill me" lol

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#2597769 4-Nov-2020 18:45

I've amended my estimate of the US as a failed state from 50 years time to 25.

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#2597771 4-Nov-2020 18:51

Trump has tweeted. Sounds like he wants to claim victory before all the votes are counted (after today).

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