msukiwi:

Batman:

not really sure what the WH Press Conference was about - i watched the whole thing and my

tl;dr was

- 1. Trump is the best, amazing

- 2. minor 2nd point - the Vaccine is safe

To show off his new hair?

Batman:

 

Right on point! According to the Internet it went from blondish to greyish

The shock of losingnot winning must have turned it grey.

Batman:

 

not really sure what the WH Press Conference was about - i watched the whole thing (about 33 mins) and my

 

tl;dr was

 

- 1. Trump is the best, amazing

 

- 2. minor 2nd point - the Vaccine is safe

 

So his plan to tackle coronavirus before he leaves is to do...nothing? Yep, that's "winning" right there. Meanwhile daily cases climb, and death rates climb as well. All in the supposed "greatest country in the world".

I might need a little help here.
Some guy on FB (who I don't know overly well but we have some mutual friends in common) is really sad Trump lost. He says "Joe Biden has done nothing in 47 years" in Government, and directed me to here when I asked him what Trump had done in 4:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/?fbclid=IwAR28dSn0DBLU5vgTCkGWWdvYH6zV123ksqJUQLEVgDqb67On1lSBGB9o29Y

He constantly harps on about how many jobs Trump has created for America as well. Obviously Trump wrote this list himself, and it's over 2 years old - but is all the stuff on that page accurate? I like Joe Biden, but must confess I don't know much about what he's done - if someone can point me to a similar list that would be awesome :D

Has Trump really done everything in that list there, or is that all just him doing more grandstanding? It's a fairly long list.

Of course he's done some stuff. 4 years x 365 days x 24 hrs is a lot of time to do stuff. If it's create jobs and prop up sharemarket that's him. Also did a lot of conservative things and dictator-level stuff.

I don't have time to check each one but most of them are things that happen naturally, some indeed his brainchild.

There are also other stuff he's done like lie, promote lies, encourage lying, incite violence, engage in open bitching/slander, popularise white supremacy, create division, and especially good at claiming credit for other people's hard work.

Probably sacked more people than the list of things he's supposedly done himself. Last week it also said he ended the pandemic.

There are also plenty of stuff he says he's done that didn't do and hasn't done that are not on the list.

America is like a huge oil tanker. It has a lot of inertia and is slow to respond to steering changes. A lot of policy is also on automatic pilot. There are many, many departments in government bureaucracy and they will keep chugging along regardless of who is at the top. Without bothering to go through the whole list, I think it can be safely assumed that a lot of the things Trump takes credit for would have happened anyway.

One thing he did do was stimulate the economy with a tax cut. This is like a sugar high. This and other policies have short-term benefit for long-term cost. If you sell your house you can go on holiday with the money, but when you get back, you will no longer have a house to live in.

You can also mortgage your future in other ways. Getting rid of environmental protections may boost coal exports, but the true cost will be born by the next generation. Trump is a selfish, self-centered, short-sighted prick. He is like a two year-old in more ways than one. He has a short and limited attention span. He is focused on immediate gratification. He has no vision and no sense of the long term.

Apart from any other consideration, Trump is a pathological liar. He is known to take credit for the accomplishments of others. I would not take anything on his list all that seriously.

• convicted felon
• pardoned by Trump
• self described "dirty trickster"
• Cartoon villain

Batman:

 

Of course he's done some stuff. 4 years x 365 days x 24 hrs is a lot of time to do stuff. If it's create jobs and prop up sharemarket that's him. Also did a lot of conservative things and dictator-level stuff.

I don't have time to check each one but most of them are things that happen naturally, some indeed his brainchild.

There are also other stuff he's done like lie, promote lies, encourage lying, incite violence, engage in open bitching/slander, popularise white supremacy, create division, and especially good at claiming credit for other people's hard work.

 

Probably sacked more people than the list of things he's supposedly done himself. Last week it also said he ended the pandemic.

There are also plenty of stuff he says he's done that didn't do and hasn't done that are not on the list.

 

Oh with that one he goes on about how the mainstream media is controlled by the Democrats. I guess he hasn't watched Fox News.

 

quickymart:  ... So his plan to tackle coronavirus before he leaves is to do ... nothing? Yep, that's "winning" right there.
Meanwhile daily cases climb, and death rates climb as well. All in the supposed "greatest country in the world".

 

An extract from a recent Washington Post opinion piece:

Most Republicans humor Trump, like he is some demented uncle who insists the mailman is stealing his lottery winnings. 

 

Only the president’s delusion has real-world consequences that include eroding the legitimacy of a democratic election. 

 

As for covid-19, gently suggesting that maybe this year people could Thanksgiving at home calls forth the white-hot fury of a thousand suns. ...

 

quickymart: Oh with that one he goes on about how the mainstream media is controlled by the Democrats. I guess he hasn't watched Fox News.

quickymart: I might need a little help here. Some guy on FB (who I don't know overly well but we have some mutual friends in common) is really sad Trump lost. He says "Joe Biden has done nothing in 47 years" in Government, and directed me to here when I asked him what Trump had done in 4:

gzt:

quickymart: I might need a little help here. Some guy on FB (who I don't know overly well but we have some mutual friends in common) is really sad Trump lost. He says "Joe Biden has done nothing in 47 years" in Government, and directed me to here when I asked him what Trump had done in 4:

Silly comparison really. Biden has never been president.

Apart from that, the 47 year statement is a direct quote of Trump. Why assume something is true just because Trump says it is? Nearly everything he says that gets checked actually turns out to be untrue. In fact, Biden has achieved a great deal during his time in politics. If he had not, he would not still be in politics. Every election he has ever won has not been for nothing. People voted for him for a reason.

Any list of accomplishments will always be debatable because the details can always be argued over. But here is one anyway just for the fun of it. I would put Biden up against Trump any day. So do 75 million voters.

Biden served in the U.S. senate and the House for 30 years and was on two key committees as both ranking member and chairman: the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee

While in the Senate & House, Joe Biden passed 167 pieces of legislation which you can view here:

https://www.congress.gov/member/joseph-biden/B000444?searchResultViewType=expanded&KWICView=false&pageSize=100&page=3

While he was vice-president, he was essential in helping getting Obamacare passed

Biden got the Recovery Act passed and oversaw it's implementation,which brought us out of the 2008 recession

Brought forth gay marriage to forefront and made it become a reality.

Oversaw infrastructure spending to counteract the Great Recession

Helped formulate U.S. policy toward Iraq through the withdrawal of U.S. troops in 2011.

Violence Against Women Act

Federal rape shield law.

Legal aid for survivors of domestic violence.

Funding for victim assistance services, like rape crisis centers and hotlines.

Programs to meet the needs of immigrant women and women of different races or ethnicities.

Programs and services for victims with disabilities.

Protections for victims who are evicted from their homes because of events related to domestic violence or stalking.

Programs and services for victims with disabilities.

Community violence prevention programs.

Work to passing The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, historic legislation expanding hate crimes law to include crimes based on one’s actual or perceived gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability

Repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Steered the Obama-Biden Administration’s repeal of the discriminatory policy to allow gay, lesbian, and bisexual members of the armed services

Championing LGBTQ Protections in the 2013 Violence Against Women Act Re-Authorization

Championed equality and inclusion for LGBTQ+ youth

Defending Equal Benefits to Same-Sex Couples

Voted against constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman

Original co-sponsor of “Employment Non-Discrimination Act” prohibiting bias and discrimination based on sexual orientation in employment

Launched First Comprehensive National HIV/AIDS Strategy

Early Support for HIV/AIDS Resources. Biden has long fought for access to treatment for people with HIV/AIDS. Dating back to 1987, he voted to authorize critical funding for medication that prolonged life for people with AIDS

Cosponsored the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, providing life-saving treatment and care to low-income, poor, and uninsured people living with HIV

Sponsored reauthorization of the Global AIDS program (PEPFAR), which significantly expanded the funding and targets for treatment, care, and prevention of HIV/AIDS and repealed statutory ban on visas for people who were HIV-positive

Insurance companies must cover pre-existing conditions

Kids stay on their parent’s insurance until 26 under certain conditions

Requires health plans to disclose how much of premium goes to patient care

Prevents children from being denied health insurance coverage

Cut prescription drug cost for medi-care recipients by 50%

Requires large employers to contribute to a national healthcare plan

Worked with Obama to institute the toughest Wall Street reform since Great Depression

Insurance companies can no longer drop you when you get sick

Expanded state run health insurance to cover additional four million kids

I have to say - I believe if you have a democracy the voters get to choose, assuming the facts laid out are fair. and everybody should have a fair go in principle. Those who choose conservative in principal are no worse or better than those who choose progressive. Democract in principle is no better or worse than Republican - they're all the same.

the rot from both sides seem to start at the top -

Nancy Pelosi is one that gets me SMH every day - she is like the Fox News host of the democrats

Anyway, when people were announcing lockdowns and asking americans to cancel thanksgiving she was busy planning a lavish democrat thanksgiving gala! (which has since been cancelled after being hammered on social media)