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  #2611805 27-Nov-2020 14:09
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The Washington Post - Trump commits to stepping down if electoral college votes for Biden

 

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President Trump said on Thursday that he would leave the White House if the electoral college voted for President-elect Joe Biden next month, though he vowed to keep fighting to overturn the election he lost and said he may never concede. ...

 



 

Tiny steps ...  😶

 

 

Conceding would be tantamount to admitting he was a loser, not likely to happen.

 

Does he actually need to concede? Doesn't concede say I acknowledge the other guy has won there's no need to continue? However just like with a knockout in boxing the loser doesn't concede but the winner is still clear.




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  #2611811 27-Nov-2020 14:14
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Concede or not has no weight, what matters is the EC vote. In the end no one cares if he doesn't concede so long as he leaves and doesn't cause anymore damage on the way out.

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  #2611812 27-Nov-2020 14:17
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vexxxboy:

if you need more lessons on how dumb some Trump supporters are then read this and have a good laugh and hope they follow through with it.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/26/trump-conspiracies-georgia-senate-440776



Excellent news. But how true is it. We'll find out next year I guess.

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  #2611820 27-Nov-2020 14:20
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Subtle distinctions here. Trump has indicated he won't concede under any circumstances but will continue his mantra of a fraudulent election being stolen from him to the bitter end. However, he will also accept (without conceding!) the verdict of the electoral college, which I think will occur on 14 December. That means he will accept the result of a fraudulent election process and leave office if the vote goes against him, but he will never agree that the process was not fraudulent. 

 

 




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  #2611835 27-Nov-2020 14:36
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Four years is a long time at his age. He is morbidly obese which won't help and by the looks of it suffers from stress.

 

I can't see him running in 2024. I would have thought it more likely that someone else, not necessarily from his family, will pick up the baton and run with a modified version of the sort of policies we've seen in the last 4 years but made more palatable to a bigger portion of the US electorate. Once he's out of the limelight he will find it very hard (and expensive) to keep his name in front of any voters apart from a small core of his most loyal followers. I would think that the majority of the media in the US will ignore him, unless he is in court of course.

 

As well as that, if McConnell keeps control of the senate, Biden may achieve very little of substance so the Dems won't have much of a platform to run the next campaign with. It may be that the best chance they have is for Harris to shine and win US voters round.

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  #2611839 27-Nov-2020 14:44
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Rikkitic:

 

Subtle distinctions here. Trump has indicated he won't concede under any circumstances but will continue his mantra of a fraudulent election being stolen from him to the bitter end. However, he will also accept (without conceding!) the verdict of the electoral college, which I think will occur on 14 December. That means he will accept the result of a fraudulent election process and leave office if the vote goes against him, but he will never agree that the process was not fraudulent. 

 

 

 

 

He lives in a free world, he's free to think what he likes.

 

Some people think vapour contrails are government sponsored chemical trails to spread chemicals to control the population. That doesn't change the fact they're really just condensation created by a well known and well understood physical process.

 

Just like the chem trail conspiracists he seems to live in a parallel universe. Some of them get locked up for their own good. With some luck the same may happen to him.




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  #2611920 27-Nov-2020 15:52
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The Washington Post - Trump commits to stepping down if electoral college votes for BidenTiny steps😶



...tiny hands .... tiny mind ... tiny conscience ... tiny mushroom shaped d_ck ...

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  #2611922 27-Nov-2020 15:55
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Rikkitic: ...That means he will accept the result of a fraudulent election process and leave office if the vote goes against him, but he will never agree that the process was not fraudulent.


He could definitely make the argument he's an expert on fraud.

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  #2611940 27-Nov-2020 16:33
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kingdragonfly:

 

 

Sideface:  The Washington Post - Trump commits to stepping down if electoral college votes for Biden    Tiny steps   😶

 



... tiny hands .... tiny mind ... tiny conscience ... tiny ...

 



 




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  #2611943 27-Nov-2020 16:37
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kingdragonfly:

 

 

Rikkitic: ... That means he will accept the result of a fraudulent election process and leave office if the vote goes against him, but he will never agree that the process was not fraudulent.

 



He could definitely make the argument he's an expert on fraud.

 



 




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  #2612008 27-Nov-2020 18:48
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Along with other American news services, PBS has a feature in which they honour victims of Covid 19 with brief bios of their lives. I am watching one of these at the moment. These are real people, not just statistics, and that of course is the point. It is quite moving to pause and actually listen to the tributes. 

 

Trump did not cause the virus. He is not directly responsible for the quarter-million + deaths. But he is definitely culpable and accountable and I sure hope that somehow, at some point, the rotten bastard is arrested, prosecuted, and jailed for his unfeeling indifference to all those who have suffered from his massive incompetence, arrogance, and sheer stupidity. I hope he dies behind bars.

 

 




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  #2612054 27-Nov-2020 20:33
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I also agree Trump did not cause the virus - absolutely, completely it was not his fault. But his handling of it has been utterly pathetic, and he hasn't shown any leadership around managing it at all. IMO this is one of the reasons why the US has the highest caseload (and death toll) in the world, despite it being - according to some people - "the greatest country in the world". Trump did nothing, it's now running rampant, yet his fanbase still think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I have to ask...how?

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  #2612087 27-Nov-2020 22:37
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quickymart:  ... Trump did nothing, [COVID] is now running rampant, yet his fanbase still think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread ...

 

 

 

 

Trump's management has been far, far, worse than incompetent - he actively sabotaged the US response to COVID:

 

1. by denial of its existence.
2. by willfully understating its virulence (despite knowing otherwise)
3. by opposing / vilifying effective countermeasures such as isolation and masks
4. by promoting useless snake-oil "remedies", some of them dangerous
5. by ignoring / obstructing his own competent COVID team
6. by appointing an incompetent / sycophantic COVID "expert" instead

 

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7. and, worst of all ... by turning a once-in-a-century public health crisis into a political 3-ring circus, starring Donald Trump as ringmaster.

 

He has blood on his hands.




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  #2612104 28-Nov-2020 03:12
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Mini desk. Tiny hands. Small soul’: Trump mocked for giving speech at little table


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  #2612118 28-Nov-2020 08:00
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Bloomberg: Pro-Trump Group Donor Sues Over Failure to Expose Election Fraud

A pro-Trump group that promised to challenge the Nov. 3 election results and expose fraud was sued by a North Carolina money manager who donated $2.5 million to the cause but says he didn’t get his money’s worth.

Fred Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, wants his money back, saying he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the project but his “requests were consistently met with vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises,” according to the lawsuit filed Wednesday in Houston federal court.

Houston-based True the Vote Inc. had promised a multi-pronged plan to “investigate, litigate, and expose suspected illegal balloting and fraud in the 2020 general election,” according to the lawsuit.

In the weeks after the election, True the Vote filed four lawsuits, but it dropped them all last week.

..The money manager said he agreed to support the plan and wired the group $2 million on Nov. 5 and $500,000 a week later after the group’s president told him that more money might be needed to achieve their goals, according to the suit.

When True the Vote failed to provide any reports on its progress and with certification deadlines approaching, Eshelman said it became obvious the group wouldn’t be able to execute the plan he agreed to support. So, he asked for his money back.

True the Vote had offered him $1 million if he would drop any plans for a lawsuit, he said in the complaint...

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