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#3277375 31-Aug-2024 13:13

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michaelmurfy:. IMHO RUC's need to be adjusted so those vehicles that consume more perhaps pay more RUC's to still encourage more efficient vehicles but as we know due to the rushed and thoughtless rollout of EV RUC's and a tax element still needs to be kept on Petrol for other uses but this won't happen.

that is not RUC, that's pollution/emissions tax.

AND if it is to be RUC then big trucks will need to stump up a LOT more, they do nt even come close to paying their share based on the damage they do.

Higher road shipping costs could mean Rail becomes far more popular... that going to cost votes in the transport industry AND oil company funds.

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#3277389 31-Aug-2024 14:39

Are tyres taxed for particulates waste?
RUC to repair roads based on damage is fair. That’ll mean higher price to consumers as distribution costs will need to be recovered.
Fuel emissions charges relating to pollutants would also make diesel vehicles much more expensive to run, while meeting our CO2 targets.
These would lead to more rail freight, but encouraging rail is contrary to the government’s pro-road policies.

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#3277452 31-Aug-2024 16:10

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"It's going to be interesting to see how the government's going to try to get around parliament's rules as to how these bits of legislation can be changed."

Unless there's some weirdly high bar for this specific thing then they can just change whatever. Geddis is usually right about this stuff though so I'm keen to know why Brown couldn't just amend the enabling Act first. We generally accept one parliament is not beholden to any previous one for some fairly good reasons.

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#3277502 31-Aug-2024 17:04

GV27:
SaltyNZ:

"It's going to be interesting to see how the government's going to try to get around parliament's rules as to how these bits of legislation can be changed."

Unless there's some weirdly high bar for this specific thing then they can just change whatever. Geddis is usually right about this stuff though so I'm keen to know why Brown couldn't just amend the enabling Act first. We generally accept one parliament is not beholden to any previous one for some fairly good reasons.

It’s a local act. By standing order a local bill must be promoted by a local authority and any amendment must meet the same standard. The standing orders could be changed but that’s at discretion of the speaker and the rules committee. IMO it would be extremely bad legislative practice to do this for one act.

It was really stupid to have this in the coalition agreement when parliament can’t get rid of it unless ECAN asks them to or they pass some sort of omnibus legislation that bans it.

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#3278999 4-Sep-2024 18:36

It's really strange to find myself agreeing with Bryce Edwards and David Farrar that the police should have prosecuted David MacLeod.

I agree that it's likely a mistake rather than nefarious intent not to declare the donations but there is an offence for that. There's lots of crap talked about the influence of donors but in this case it's a terrible look.

IMO he should have either been excused or convicted publicly by the courts. Anything else smacks of "tough on crime" except for crimes by middle class white people.

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#3279050 4-Sep-2024 18:55

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/526974/korea-ferry-cancellation-talks-were-two-texts-sent-within-an-hour-of-announcement

This looks sloppy, I would have thought there would be more discussions involved than just two texts. Maybe they were just so eager to get the press release out?

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#3279691 7-Sep-2024 16:20

So ACT's David Seymour is not into doing something about Supermarkets or even monitoring them
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/focusonpolitics/527289/act-pledges-pushback-on-supermarket-crackdown

Regulation Minister and ACT leader David Seymour has rubbished calls for tougher regulation of the grocery sector, putting him at odds with both the commerce minister and the supermarket tsar.

Grocery Commissioner Pierre van Heerden on Wednesday published a scathing assessment of an industry he said had made "little meaningful improvement" in competition.

He said he would launch a further targeted inquiry into the major retailers' wholesale offerings, with the intent of unlocking new powers to rein in the duopoly.

Commerce Minister Andrew Bayly was quick to gave his backing, telling RNZ: "we want to make sure that that happens, and I support [the commissioner] in his approach."

But in an interview with RNZ published on Saturday, Seymour suggested such talk was premature.

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#3279752 7-Sep-2024 18:53

Of course he would say that, as an elected official my taxes pay his salary and, therefore, for his groceries. His only interest is in opposing it because it doesn't help his wealthy voters - they don't care how much groceries cost to them, and especially not how much it might cost for lower-income families.

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#3280096 8-Sep-2024 19:25

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/09/08/officials-raise-alarm-after-mckee-makes-rapid-gun-law-change/

What the hell. Is this meant to lead to something good?

Documents obtained by 1News under the Official Information Act show McKee approached officials in March to raise what was – in her view – unfair regulation on gun clubs.

"You have expressed concern that shooting clubs and ranges may close if they are unable to meet requirements," the paper reads.

Oh dear 🙄

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#3280098 8-Sep-2024 19:36

Thanks, National voters, for placing a tobacco lobbyist in charge of health and a gun lobbyist to take care of firearms.

You all did New Zealand and your kids' future a great disservice.

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#3280152 9-Sep-2024 08:14

quickymart:

Oh dear 🙄

I know how you feel but as my wife, who grew up in rural communities, pointed out when we had nearly this exact discussion months ago, the kinds of people we are talking about here won't just sell their guns and go home, they'll do increasingly more stupid / less regulated stuff, shooting wherever they feel like it as long as the cops aren't around. Even I admit to enjoy target shooting with the air rifle - much prefer people who have real guns and a deep suspicion of authority to do it somewhere controlled rather than to give them an excuse to go underground.

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#3280256 9-Sep-2024 11:25

quickymart:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/526974/korea-ferry-cancellation-talks-were-two-texts-sent-within-an-hour-of-announcement

This looks sloppy, I would have thought there would be more discussions involved than just two texts. Maybe they were just so eager to get the press release out?

It looks sloppy because it is sloppy.

The worst thing is that in their rush do demonstrate that they were "saving money" they are in fact doing the exact opposite.

Its pretty much a certainly that we'll end up paying more for smaller, less able ferries without the rail capabilities. And by the time the cost of still required port side upgrades are added to the sunk costs and cancellation fees it will end up costing more than the "cost blow out" ever did.

It just amazes me that $30+ Billion for roads is perfectly fine but $3Bn for a future proofed link between the North and South Islands which would improve productivity and reduce freight costs and, by the way, become absolutely critical in the event of the "big one" ever hitting Wellington somehow isn't.

Short term thinking of the highest order.

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#3280263 9-Sep-2024 11:42

Archneoliberal Seymour really reading the room here, deciding to go against the Comcom on a crackdown on the supermarket anti-consumer policies.

It's pretty clear what ACT's position is: we need less regulation and more competition.

We all agree that we need more competition. But it won't happen without effective regulation. Same way that in order for mobile prices to come down we needed more competition - but we couldn't get it until the regulations were in place to make it possible for 2degrees to enter the market. Or Optus, in Australia back in the day, for that matter.

You can't have effective competition without regulations.

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#3280274 9-Sep-2024 12:06

freitasm:

Thanks, National voters, for placing a tobacco lobbyist in charge of health and a gun lobbyist to take care of firearms.

You all did New Zealand and your kids' future a great disservice.

To be fair, that's actually NZ First voters. But you can point the finger at the totally inept National Party leader, now Prime Minister, who rolled over and agreed to all this lunacy in the headlong rush to get a coalition agreement. Although, lets not forget about ex-Phillip Morris lobbyist Mr. Chris Bishop.

You can also add links to the Mining and Fishing industries (NZ First), pandering to the Fossil Fuel industry (all of 'em), rigging the tax system and killing the construction of social housing by the public sector for the benefit of landlords/property developers (National/ACT) together with doing the bidding of the Road Haulage Association at every opportunity (National) as more examples of the absolute stench of corruption emanating from this government.

Plus don't forget the "classic" of doing whatever Federated Farmers want and Winnie's strange obsession with horse racing.

The idea that NZ isn't a banana republic where you can get exactly what you want by slipping a political party a few bucks is just laughable.

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#3280334 9-Sep-2024 13:00

SaltyNZ:

Archneoliberal Seymour really reading the room here, deciding to go against the Comcom on a crackdown on the supermarket anti-consumer policies.

It's pretty clear what ACT's position is: we need less regulation and more competition.

We all agree that we need more competition. But it won't happen without effective regulation. Same way that in order for mobile prices to come down we needed more competition - but we couldn't get it until the regulations were in place to make it possible for 2degrees to enter the market. Or Optus, in Australia back in the day, for that matter.

You can't have effective competition without regulations.

The best line I have heard is "Capitalism without regulations is like healthcare without vaccinations"

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