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#2716245 31-May-2021 16:26

Nick Smith to retire immediately citing a "verbal altercation" in his office last July that is under investigation. This sounds like it could be ugly.

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#2716344 31-May-2021 18:49

That took a while to happen if it was that long ago.

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#2716345 31-May-2021 18:52

Smiths statement said it was going to be published in the media tomorrow.

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#2716395 31-May-2021 20:51

And another religious nutter who will fight secular principles enters NZ parliament.

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#2716433 1-Jun-2021 06:51

Was Nick Smith actually any good as an MP? I remember he held the Nelson electorate for many, many years.

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#2716613 1-Jun-2021 11:06

quickymart:

Was Nick Smith actually any good as an MP? I remember he held the Nelson electorate for many, many years.

Need to define "good".

Perhaps holding an electorate for many, many years was "good enough" to save him from the consequences of each of several potentially career-ending adventures.

Which makes his retirement for a claimed mere "verbal altercation" very suspect.

"I was advised on Friday that the inquiry and its details have been leaked to the media for release tomorrow."

Today is tomorrow, yet things seem to be very quiet - so far.

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#2716683 1-Jun-2021 12:45

I wonder if the person who leaked this information, which was presumably sensitive and confidential, will face consequences?

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#2716696 1-Jun-2021 13:23

networkn:

I wonder if the person who leaked this information, which was presumably sensitive and confidential, will face consequences?

What leak? So what consequences?

The MP himself was convicted for contempt of court while an MP for leaking confidential info from family court proceedings, cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of $$$ defending defamation cases taken against him, used his position as ACC minister to try to interfere with ACC policy on behalf of a friend who was alleged to have threatened to release confidential ACC documents obtained in error unless her benefit was extended for two years...

Apart from being dumped from ministerial portfolios as a smack with a wet bus ticket for the latter very dodgy "error of judgement" and being "escorted from the house" while screaming Godwin's - he's led a very charmed political life for someone so dodgy.

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#2716737 1-Jun-2021 14:48

Fred99:

What leak? So what consequences?

The MP himself was convicted for contempt of court while an MP for leaking confidential info from family court proceedings, cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands of $$$ defending defamation cases taken against him, used his position as ACC minister to try to interfere with ACC policy on behalf of a friend who was alleged to have threatened to release confidential ACC documents obtained in error unless her benefit was extended for two years...

Apart from being dumped from ministerial portfolios as a smack with a wet bus ticket for the latter very dodgy "error of judgement" and being "escorted from the house" while screaming Godwin's - he's led a very charmed political life for someone so dodgy.

Heh, Trevor Mallard has a worse record and is speaker of the house with the 'full confidence' of our Prime Minister.

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#2716738 1-Jun-2021 14:50

networkn:
I wonder if the person who leaked this information, which was presumably sensitive and confidential, will face consequences?

Same as the "consequences" Paula Bennett faced?

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#2716742 1-Jun-2021 14:54

networkn:

I wonder if the person who leaked this information, which was presumably sensitive and confidential, will face consequences?

Nothing illegal about the leak itself. If National felt the act of leaking breached their employment / membership agreement (which it probably did), they can attempt to seek damages. Considering the nature of the leak that kind of reaction paints a picture of dysfunctional Hitlers lol, not very likely.

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#2716745 1-Jun-2021 15:07

networkn:

Heh, Trevor Mallard

Whataboutism.

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#2716941 1-Jun-2021 21:53

The media reports make Smith seem like a total a$$hole.

The amusing thing about the comments about Mallard is that he is the first speaker to try and do something about the abuse of staffers that is well know and routine.

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#2716977 2-Jun-2021 07:08

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/443802/nick-smith-resignation-national-party-mps-unaware-of-parliamentary-service-inquiry

Even more strange is (most of) the National Party didn't even know there was inquiry underway about him - is that normal? I have no idea.

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#2716979 2-Jun-2021 07:13

quickymart:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/443802/nick-smith-resignation-national-party-mps-unaware-of-parliamentary-service-inquiry

Even more strange is (most of) the National Party didn't even know there was inquiry underway about him - is that normal? I have no idea.

Culpable deniability. If you don't "know" you can't lie.

The whips of course know everything.

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