Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2638699 20-Jan-2021 12:04

SJB:

McConnell has figured he has an opportunity to break Trumps hold over the GOP so he will vote for impeachment and a shed load of Republicans will vote with him. Game over for Trump.

McConnell himself has nothing to lose. He's just been elected for another 6 years after which he will retire so the threat of losing his seat is not a problem. He's pushed the Supreme Court to the right with Trumps help and he'll be hoping to regain control of the senate when the next round of elections come up in 2 years time. And maybe another more moderate (compared to DT) Republican President in 4 years time.

So possibly a pretty successful end to a long career. First step though - make sure there is no Trump comeback.

Yep, it really is all down to McConnell's influence on which way the impeachment will go. I'm not popping any champagne just yet though.

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#2638703 20-Jan-2021 12:08

"Trump offers "best wishes" to new administration in farewell video address"

President Trump released a video farewell message on his last full day as President, describing his accomplishments and offering luck and "best wishes" to the incoming administration.

The video struck more of a conciliatory tone than more recent messages from Trump.

"This week, we inaugurate a new administration and pray for its success in keeping America safe and prosperous," he says in the video. "We extend our best wishes and we also want them to have luck — a very important word."
He describes his accomplishments and says he worked arduously for the American people, framing his presidency as one that championed the forgotten while making no apologies for his brazen approach to politics.

"America is not a timid nation of tame souls who need to be sheltered and protected from those with whom we disagree," he says.

He touts having not started any new foreign wars and adopting a tough stance on China. And he takes credit for a resurgent US economy, even though it has slowed during the coronavirus pandemic.

Trump made no mention of President-elect Joe Biden, but did allude to the violence at the Capitol earlier this month.

"All Americans were horrified by the assault on our Capitol. Political violence is an attack on everything we cherish as Americans. It can never be tolerated," he says.

The President, who hasn't left the White House or been seen in public for a week, recorded the message late Monday with a skeleton staff. Unlike most of his predecessors in the television era, a live prime-time farewell address attempting to burnish what has become a badly tarnished legacy is no longer in the cards.

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#2638705 20-Jan-2021 12:10

He is going to leave the White House as a loser. A LOSER.

"Trump talked out of pardoning kids and Republican lawmakers"

President Donald Trump received an unsettling warning on his final Saturday night in the White House.

Huddled for a lengthy meeting with his legal advisers, Trump was warned the pardons he once hoped to bestow upon his family and even himself would place him in a legally perilous position, convey the appearance of guilt and potentially make him more vulnerable to reprisals.

So, too, was Trump warned that pardons for Republican lawmakers who had sought them for their role in the Capitol insurrection would anger the very Senate Republicans who will determine his fate in an upcoming impeachment trial.

White House counsel Pat Cipollone and another attorney who represented Trump in his first impeachment trial, Eric Herschmann, offered the grave warnings as Trump, his daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner listened. Other lawyers joined by telephone. They all told Trump he should not pardon himself, his family or any GOP lawmakers in a prospective manner unless he was prepared to list specific crimes.

Cipollone and former Attorney General William Barr both warned Trump earlier this month they did not believe he should pardon himself, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN last week. Barr conveyed this position to Trump before resigning last month, sources say.

Trump continued to bring the matter up in the ensuing days, even after officials believed the issue was resolved. But the sobering meeting on Saturday evening at the White House seemed to put the idea to rest.

While Trump often discards advice he doesn't agree with -- particularly coming from Cipollone, with whom he has a fractured relationship -- the message Saturday resonated. The conversation spooked Trump in a way few others have, a person familiar with his reaction told CNN.

Now, Trump will leave office muted and disheartened at being unable to wield the power he has cherished most while president. Boxed in by his own actions that helped spark the riots at the Capitol, Trump finds himself constrained in a way he mostly avoided for his entire tenure.

His final batch of pardons, due later Tuesday, is expected to contain few of the controversial or outlandish criminals that have characterized his earlier use of his clemency powers.

Trump could still change his mind, and retains his sweeping clemency powers until noon on Wednesday. The President continues to bring up pardons that aides once thought were off the table, including for former strategist Steve Bannon, leading to general uncertainty about whether Trump will continue adhering to his lawyers' advice.

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#2638706 20-Jan-2021 12:10

freitasm:

"Trump offers "best wishes" to new administration in farewell video address"

19 mins of me me me.

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding : Ice cream man , Ice cream man

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#2638709 20-Jan-2021 12:24

Washington: JB Corp Announces Thursday Completion Of Whitehouse Swamp Draining Contract.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#2638719 20-Jan-2021 12:49

The Washington Post - My Pillow CEO says Bed Bath & Beyond, Kohl’s, Wayfair have dropped his products

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My Pillow chief executive Mike Lindell - an avid Trump backer who has repeatedly pressed debunked claims the 2020 election was rigged - said Kohl’s, Bed Bath & Beyond, Wayfair and other retailers are dropping his products.

The moves come as corporate America is rethinking its political affiliations following the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters attempting to block Congress from confirming Biden’s victory in the presidential contest. ...

Lindell has been promoting baseless election fraud claims on right-wing media for months and now faces litigation from Dominion Voting Systems, whose lawyers accused him of mounting a “smear campaign” against the election technology company.

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#2638724 20-Jan-2021 12:56

freitasm:

"Trump offers "best wishes" to new administration in farewell video address"

Couldn't even be bothered watching it, but just skimmed over the video to see how many times they switched to the close-up camera. Every time it does that will be because he either stuffed up, or went off script and they needed to edit it.

It's very telling that the only time he doesn't sound completely deranged is in edited pre-recorded speeches.

EDIT: The unedited version was probably 2 hours!

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#2638875 20-Jan-2021 14:16

freitasm: "Trump talked out of pardoning kids and Republican lawmakers"

Here's Trump thinking on everything: what's in it for me?

Even he must now realize he's going to be going bankrupt (again), and his brand has been severely tarnished.

He's wants to keep the million dollar/year benefits he'll receive as an ex-president. He only gets that money if he's not impeached a second time.

He would have already collected all the bribes for pardons. Anyone who gave him money upfront is a sucker.

As the saying goes: "don't pay the ferryman till you get to the other side."

He'll tell anyone who gave him money, but didn't get a pardon: "Listen, I wanted to pardon you. You are a great friend, and you're special. I really did. But that liar Giuliani and all those lawyers told me not to give you one. You should be mad at Giuliani and the lawyers. They're the ones that misled you."

What happened to the money?

"Again ask Giuliani. I think your check's in the mail. You left your address Giuliani, right? Sorry. I've got a date with a golf ball. We'll talk again soon. You're the best, a real winner"

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#2638927 20-Jan-2021 14:36

UN-IMPEACHED REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS CLUB

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#2638928 20-Jan-2021 14:39

How I felt the last four years, half expecting another Trump term or a violent coup.

Harold Lloyd's "Safety Last"- 1923

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#2638933 20-Jan-2021 14:52

freitasm:
Trump offers "best wishes" to new administration in farewell video address

From another source:

Trump insists his ‘movement’ is ‘just beginning’ in farewell address to nation

"I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning,” he said in his farewell talk. “There’s never been anything like it".

He's lucky the Fuehrer is dead, Hitler would be pissed to see a clown like Trump stealing his terminology:

The second volume, entitled Die Nationalsozialistische Bewegung (“The National Socialist Movement”), written after Hitler’s release from prison in December 1924, outlines the political program, including the terrorist methods, that National Socialism must pursue both in gaining power and in exercising it thereafter in the new Germany.

Hitler regularly referred to it as "die Bewegung", the movement, with Munich declared as the Hauptstadt der Bewegung, something like the capital or main city of the movement.

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#2638936 20-Jan-2021 15:01

neb: Trump insists his ‘movement’ is ‘just beginning’ in farewell address to nation

I think he got his Depend undergarments on too tight, and cut off the circulation to his "Trump Jr" brain.

He meant to say "Trump insists his ‘bowel movement’ is ‘just beginning’ in farewell address to nation"

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#2638941 20-Jan-2021 15:14

kingdragonfly:
neb: Trump insists his ‘movement’ is ‘just beginning’ in farewell address to nation

I think he got his Depend undergarments on too tight, and cut off the circulation to his "Trump Jr" brain.

He meant to say "Trump insists his ‘bowel movement’ is ‘just beginning’ in farewell address to nation"

I thought Trump was the bowel movement!

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2638953 20-Jan-2021 15:45

When I posted this at 3:50 pm NZ, it was nearly 10pm in Washington, so not impossible Trump will have some surprise waiting.

Joe Biden officially becomes president (knock on wood) at 6 AM our time.

It's the moment Biden says "So help me God"

There might be some gusty weather shortly afterwards, by billions giving a deep of sigh of relief.

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#2638963 20-Jan-2021 15:56

A bit worrisome:

CNN: 12 Army National Guard members removed from inauguration duty

...Two of the individuals were flagged due to "inappropriate" comments and texts, Army Gen. Daniel Hokanson told reporters after a defense official told CNN earlier Tuesday that they were removed over possible links to extremists.

The other 10 Guard members were removed for questionable behavior found in the vetting process, Hokanson said, emphasizing that this does not necessarily mean they have ties to extremists, but simply that they were "identified" and removed from service "out of an abundance of caution."
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