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#3121057 28-Aug-2023 09:34

Bad news

I flew the L-39 myself in the Czech Republic in aerobatics - a solid trainer. Something must have gone wrong with the flight coordination.

I also lost a fellow pilot and flight trainer back in 2005 during a routine flight, along with his young Canadian co-pilot. My condolences.

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#3121245 28-Aug-2023 15:21

I laughed at this comment about the supposed shooting down of Prigozhin's plane:

"Someone in the Russian military finally decided to send Prigozhin the ammunition he had long requested - albeit at a somewhat higher velocity and more armed state than he probably intended."

From Perun's video on the matter.

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#3121353 28-Aug-2023 19:06

Yeah, people like him don't typically die peacefully in their sleep at the age of 102. At least he was lucky that when it came, it was pretty quick.

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#3121952 30-Aug-2023 16:21

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#3121996 30-Aug-2023 19:17

Newsweek: Ex-Trump Adviser Calls Out 'Lies' About Russia Losing Ukraine War

...Jason Jay Smart, a political adviser on post-Soviet and international politics, told Newsweek that [Ex-Trump Adviser] Macgregor was invited onto [disgraced Fox presenter] Carlson's show "because he is one of only a handful of the hundreds of thousands of former U.S. military officers who believes that Russia is anything other than losing terribly."

"Secondly, his arguments are the quintessential example of 'cherry-picking.' He actively seeks out data points that affirm his biases, rather than analyze the data as a whole, which shows that Russia is being destroyed," Smart said.

"Sadly, Macgregor is hungry for media attention and is willing to say whatever is necessary to have some relevance. However, he remains wholly irrelevant to world affairs, except when Carlson needs someone to console him."

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#3122005 30-Aug-2023 20:53

Pretty complex issue. Vanity Fair article title gives good summary

Vanity Fair: Elon Musk’s Twitter wanted to tell Trump about a sealed search warrant and potentially f--k up Jack Smith’s criminal investigation

November 2022 Elon Musk did Donald Trump a very big solid when he lifted the Twitter ban that was imposed on the ex-president in January 2021 for the violence he’d incited. ... Musk’s Twitter tried to do Trump an even bigger favor shortly thereafter.

A court ruling unsealed revealed that Twitter—now called X— was forced to pay a $350,000 fine after it failed to comply in a timely manner with a search warrant ordering it to turn over records from Trump’s account.

According to The Washington Post, while attorneys for the company did not generally oppose Special Counsel Jack Smith’s request, they argued against the gag order it came with, which prevented them from alerting Trump. Claiming that handing over the records without telling Trump was a violation of the First Amendment

When Elon Musk fought Jack Smith's search warrant for Donald Trump

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#3122006 30-Aug-2023 21:05

Russia sinks ferries to guard the Kerch Bridge, apparently, they will anchor a boom to stop drone boats.

Tucker Carlsons father is a professional lobbyist with Victor Orban as a client.
Given Orban ( I really want to be leader for life like Putin ) , like Trump idolizes Putins power.
There is probably some Russian slush money in the mix.

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#3122017 30-Aug-2023 21:53

ezbee:

Russia sinks ferries to guard the Kerch Bridge, apparently, they will anchor a boom to stop drone boats.

Tucker Carlsons father is a professional lobbyist with Victor Orban as a client.
Given Orban ( I really want to be leader for life like Putin ) , like Trump idolizes Putins power.
There is probably some Russian slush money in the mix.

First drone boat blows up anti-drone boom, second drone boat blows up bridge.

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#3122026 30-Aug-2023 22:38

kingdragonfly: Pretty complex issue. Vanity Fair article title gives good summary

Sorry, wrong thread. meant to post in Trump thread.

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#3122072 31-Aug-2023 08:07

Journeyman:

First drone boat blows up anti-drone boom, second drone boat blows up bridge.

Yeah, either that or they have those net cutters installed on the bow like a WWII U-boat.

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#3122117 31-Aug-2023 09:58

There is some fearless coverage from the BBC with their reporter on the front line.

In this morning's report a Russian drone explodes just in front of the Humvee they are in, the gunner falls back into the vehicle fortunately not hurt. And the reporter carries on with the report.

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#3122323 31-Aug-2023 16:49

From a purely strategic military point of view, the whole thing has more or less degenerated into a pure war of position and attrition. And it will continue for quite a long time.

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#3122843 2-Sep-2023 09:24

Shut Up About NATO Expansion

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#3122876 2-Sep-2023 10:40

Russia's autocrat like China's CCP has no time for Nobel Prize winners.
To join China's 'empty chair'.

Russia Brands Nobel Winner Dmitry Muratov a 'Foreign Agent'
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/09/01/russia-brands-nobel-winner-dmitry-muratov-a-foreign-agent-a82340

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In 2021, Muratov who works as the chief editor of Russia's top independent publication Novaya Gazeta, shared the Nobel Peace Prize with the Philippines' Maria Ressa for their respective fights for freedom of expression.

Since 2000, Novaya Gazeta has seen six of its journalists and contributors killed, including investigative reporter Anna Politkovskaya, who was shot dead in Moscow on President Vladimir Putin's birthday.
""

Russia's Police terrified of pensioner along with people holding blank pieces of paper or books by Tolstoy.

Note: China's CCP 'empty chair' reference, Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu-Xiaobo.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Liu-Xiaobo

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in July 2017 Liu became the first Nobel Peace Prize winner to die in state custody since 1935 recipient Carl von Ossietzky.
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You might be able to guess from the date who killed the other Noble Peace Prize winner to die in custody.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Carl-von-Ossietzky

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#3123046 2-Sep-2023 18:31

kingdragonfly: Shut Up About NATO Expansion

Foreseeable. Let's see when they manage to admit a belligerent country against its own NATO regulations - I would not find that acceptable in terms of credibility and would not let Ukraine coerce me into doing so. For me, the credibility of the NATO and my own government depends on it.

First we were told: no offensive weapons! What was delivered? Assault weapons.

Then it was: no battle tanks! What was delivered? Battle tanks!

Then it was: no combat aircraft! What is being delivered? Combat aircraft!

Hopefully it won't soon be: no nuclear weapons!

Call it what you will, I call it a proxy war and Zelensky is a clever fellow who comes back home with all kinds of toys (at least as long as no American or other NATO soldier falls in battle - ideally only Russian ones). The initial superiority of Western systems will soon be counterbalanced by Chinese technology (remember, the Chinese are the ones who supply us with their cheap computers and other technical things that we no longer produce ourselves at these unbeatable prices).

A great real-world scenario to test whether one's own arsenal of weapons will meet future requirements - for what? You got it.

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