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#3130614 22-Sep-2023 19:29

Poland.

We should know this well, all these have strong farmer lobby groups.
When farmers set your trade policy.

I do wonder if France also is a bit mixed due to farmer concern about Ukraine eventually in EU.
Bingo, France, Farmers, LePen and Google delivers a list like.
https://www.politico.eu/article/french-farmers-flock-to-marine-le-pen-hope-for-the-best-agricultural-policy/

Poland has elections coming up, so you have to deal with that.

Russia knows all about working elections playing both UltraLeft, UltraRight, directionless discontented etc.
Positions up for grabs on future gas, fuel supply boards, once things are normalized for the avaricious.
The old KGB hands know opportunity for their craft when they see it.

Anyways we took Australia to World Trade Court over Apples, they send us 501's and we are still friends ?
We lost out on the Māori word Manuka for some reason.

Poland has some interesting things going on with EU as well, and there was the funny stuff with charges on German Tank repairs.
Suppose it will be quite lumpy until election seasons are over.

Putin, has a large hope chest, maybe time delivers him an election, or a phone call from an old friend etc.

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#3135441 27-Sep-2023 11:47

Great line: "you can tell these Russian tanks fake inflatables because they still have their turrets"

Russia Deploys Realistic Inflatable Decoy T-72 Tanks in Donetsk -- With Some Telltale Flaws

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A Ukrainian drone in Donetsk spots a group of Russian inflatable T-72 tanks. The tanks look pretty good at first glance, and would likely fool cheaper spotter drones. There are some telltale signs that give them away.

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#3136678 29-Sep-2023 18:44

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#3137529 2-Oct-2023 00:15

US shutdown averted with a stop gap.

It does not include any funding for Ukraine so not sure the implications of this.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4232295-shutdown-averted-political-winners-and-losers/amp/

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#3137572 2-Oct-2023 09:14

rugrat:
US shutdown averted with a stop gap.

It does not include any funding for Ukraine so not sure the implications of this.

When did the US Republican party get so pro-Russian?

Putting aside "better dead than red", they compete directly with the US as on oil producer. I thought Republicans loved protecting big oil.

United States --- 21%
Saudi Arabia -- 13%
Russia --- 10%

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#3137577 2-Oct-2023 09:24

Republicans love Trump. Trump loves Putin. Ergo Republicans love Russia.

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#3137595 2-Oct-2023 10:38

Rikkitic:

Republicans love Trump. Trump loves Putin. Ergo Republicans love Russia.

I imagine those Republicans in positions of power have been bought and paid for.

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#3137606 2-Oct-2023 11:03

SJB:

I imagine those Republicans in positions of power have been bought and paid for.

A lot of money flowed from Russia to various PACs etc which funded Republican candidates. The NRA for instance was found to be acting as one such middle man.

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#3137661 2-Oct-2023 11:17

Varkk:

SJB:

I imagine those Republicans in positions of power have been bought and paid for.

A lot of money flowed from Russia to various PACs etc which funded Republican candidates. The NRA for instance was found to be acting as one such middle man.

I'd like people to post evidence to their claims - the same request I made in the 2023 Elections thread.

I will help here but in the future, clams without supporting evidence will be challenged or removed.

NRA finally admits taking money from 23 Russian-linked sources (americanindependent.com)

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#3137668 2-Oct-2023 11:30

kingdragonfly:
rugrat:

US shutdown averted with a stop gap.

It does not include any funding for Ukraine so not sure the implications of this.

When did the US Republican party get so pro-Russian?

Putting aside "better dead than red", they compete directly with the US as on oil producer. I thought Republicans loved protecting big oil.

United States --- 21%
Saudi Arabia -- 13%
Russia --- 10%

I think most of the time Republican policy is determined by being contrary—find out what the Democrats support, then support the opposite out of sheer bloody-mindedness.

The whole philosophy of 'owning the libs' is so ingrained that it drowns out calm and rational discourse.

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#3137674 2-Oct-2023 11:42

Gurezaemon:

The whole philosophy of 'owning the libs' is so ingrained that it drowns out calm and rational discourse.

Indeed, in the immortal words of Mitch McConnell letting the mask slip to Barak Obama: 'You must be under the mistaken impression that I care.'

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#3137699 2-Oct-2023 12:54

Problem is the temporary funding bill excludes Ukraine funding.
Gives Putin something for his hope chest that by holding out he will get what he wants.
Slows down any concessions Putin might give for peace, because he will see waiting gets him more, maybe everything.

Its not that Ukraine spending would not pass a vote, it would, but McCarthy is to scared to put the bill forward.

Jake Broe an American explains the pickle that US congress is in where very little gets done ue to stubborn few.

Is Ukraine Losing America's Support?
Jake Broe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr2EYKbjsAw

Towards the end there is this, an Astravol defender now in court in Russia now for some terrorist charges still in captivity.
What more than a year of Russian captivity does to you, and they seem proud of it.

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#3137838 2-Oct-2023 15:14

Varkk: A lot of money flowed from Russia to various PACs etc which funded Republican candidates. The NRA for instance was found to be acting as one such middle man.

The linked article says US$2500. That's hardly much compared to the budget of the NRA. Are you aware of larger amounts or allegations to that effect?

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#3137842 2-Oct-2023 15:26

gzt:
Varkk: A lot of money flowed from Russia to various PACs etc which funded Republican candidates. The NRA for instance was found to be acting as one such middle man.

The linked article says US$2500. That's hardly much compared to the budget of the NRA. Are you aware of larger amounts or allegations to that effect?

Yeah but that's like, the total annual Russian military budget in rubles...

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#3137861 2-Oct-2023 16:33

The Moscow Times: Russians Pay Final Tribute to Prigozhin 40 Days After Mercenary Chief's Death
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“He was a true hero who wasn't afraid to tell the truth about existing problems,” he continued, referring to Prigozhin's vocal criticism of the Defense Ministry's handling of the war effort.

“Now, there is no such person anymore.”
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This opacity has given rise to the theory that Prigozhin’s death was orchestrated by Russia’s top leadership, who saw the onetime Kremlin ally as a traitor following his aborted armed uprising against the Russian military’s top brass in June.

“It’s the government who did it, I am 100% sure,” said Andrei, 57, a Wagner supporter who came to pay tribute at Prigozhin’s grave.
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Many of Prigozhin’s supporters expressed hopes that his death was staged and that he and the other Wagner leaders are still alive.

“Prigozhin and Utkin wouldn't fly together on the same flight,” said Anna, 35, who came to the graveyard with her young son. “We don’t want to believe they are dead.”

“We didn’t see his body, nor is there any proof that he boarded that plane,” agreed Alexander Kolos, a local entrepreneur and Wagner supporter.

The Moscow Times previously reported, citing Russian officials, that the Kremlin was concerned by Prigozhin’s growing popularity following the mutiny, prompting authorities to keep his funeral a secret from the public.
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