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  #2908438 29-Apr-2022 21:23
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Marjorie Greene runs for the hills and says she's being "harassed" when asked by CNN's Jim Acosta about her "Marshall law" texts to Mark Meadows.

 

Of course, when she was needling Alexandria Ocasio Cortez I suppose that wasn't "harassment" was it? Only when it's happening to Ms Greene, right?

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  #2908440 29-Apr-2022 21:32
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kingdragonfly: Many Republicans, including Rick Perry, Kevin McCarthy and Marjorie Taylor Greene have been hit with the new phenomena of “January 6th Amnesia” ....

 

 




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  #2908515 30-Apr-2022 11:41
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Hey, it's just DEMOCRAZY at work.




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  #2908519 30-Apr-2022 12:11
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And now for the really bad news ...

 

The NY Times - Likelihood of Trump Indictment in Manhattan Fades as Grand Jury Wraps Up

 

today

 

 

The Manhattan district attorney is continuing to investigate Donald J. Trump, but knowledgeable people say charges are unlikely to occur in the foreseeable future, if ever.

 

When some two dozen New Yorkers filed into a Manhattan courthouse this week to finish out their grand jury service, the case against a man who would have been the world’s most prominent criminal defendant was no longer before them.

 

That man, Donald J. Trump, was facing potential criminal charges from the grand jury this year over his business practices. 

 

But in the weeks since the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, stopped presenting evidence to the jurors about Mr. Trump, new signs have emerged that the former president will not be indicted in Manhattan in the foreseeable future - if at all.

 

At least three of the witnesses once central to the case have either not heard from the district attorney’s office in months, or have not been asked to testify, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

 

In recent weeks, a prosecutor at the Manhattan district attorney’s office who played a key role in the investigation has stopped focusing on a potential case against Mr. Trump - [this follows] the resignation earlier this year of the two senior prosecutors leading the investigation. ...

 

 

Bugger   🙁




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  #2908528 30-Apr-2022 12:42
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Teflon Don.

 

 




Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 

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  #2908530 30-Apr-2022 12:51
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Rikkitic:  Teflon Don.

 



 




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  #2908701 30-Apr-2022 17:46
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A while back there was the University of Maryland study showing that watching Fox made you dumber, specifically that when you ranked the accuracy of people's views of the real world, with ones who didn't watch any news or read the paper as a baseline of zero, then Fox was the one major news source with a negative score: Fox New viewers actually knew less than people who didn't consume any news at all.

 

 

There's a more recent study, this time from Yale, that looked at things from the other direction. They paid Fox viewers to watch CNN, which itself is a pretty rubbish media source, and found that they were partially deprogrammed by it even though they still disliked CNN.

 

 

“The people in our study are committed Republicans and active voters who liked Donald Trump and disliked CNN. Yet, being paid to watch CNN altered their views on several prominent issues,” said Kalla, an assistant professor of political science in the Faculty of Arts and Sciences. “This is concerning because it suggests that, by providing viewers a biased set of facts through its framing and coverage decisions, partisan media undermines our ability to hold elected officials accountable.”

 

 

What that second study in particular shows is how important it is for the Retrumplicans to collaborate with Fox in order to keep their supporters on-side. There's the nutcase sources like Infowars to server the Retrumplican side, but for the major news sources it's really only Fox that's acting as their propaganda arm.

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  #2908817 30-Apr-2022 20:09
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I wonder - if Fox makes you "dumber", what about the real right-wing outfits, like Newsmax and that One America thingo? Does your IQ dip into the negatives?

 

In other news; I agree with Mr Barr: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/29/william-barr-donald-trump-2024-nomination-republians-big-mistake

 

 

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  #2908922 1-May-2022 09:32
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Who knew buying and selling real estate meant keeping documents?

I'm sure literally anyone else would seriously make this appeal in court in a US court. (◔_◔)

Aljazeera: New York judge declines to end contempt fines against Trump

A New York judge has expressed surprise that former US President Donald Trump, a man he described as perhaps the world’s most famous real estate developer, was unable to provide any documents sought in a probe of the Trump Organization, his family company.

“He’s Donald Trump, the most famous real estate developer in the world, arguably,” the judge said. “I am surprised he doesn’t seem to have any documents; they’re all with the organisation.”
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  #2908923 1-May-2022 09:38
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The Guardian: The Right review: conservatism, Trump, regret and wishful thinking

...Within the GOP, Donald Trump has supplanted the legacies of Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln. According to Matthew Continetti, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, being a conservative in 2022 is less about advocating limited government and more about culture wars, owning the libs and denouncing globalization.

Subtitled The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism, Continetti’s third book The Right examines a century of intellectual and political battles. He seeks to explain how Trumpism became the dominant force within the Republican party. In large measure, he succeeds.

Continetti chronicles the tumult of 1960s, the emergence of Richard Nixon’s “southern strategy” and the migration of blue-collar ethnic Catholics to what was once the home of the white Protestant establishment. He also looks back, at the pre-New Deal Republican party and at conservatism after the civil war.

Continetti is sensitive to the currents that swirl in and around this country and its people. He laments that in the 21st century blood, soil and grievance have overtaken the conservative orthodoxies of free markets, personal autonomy and communal virtue. He is discomforted by how contemporary conservatism acquired a performative edge.
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  #2908926 1-May-2022 09:57
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Gawd 'elp us. And to think I used to wonder why the Italians couldn't get rid of Berlusconi




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  #2908944 1-May-2022 11:58
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Business Insider: Maine governor thought Trump was having a 'nervous breakdown' during a call on which he complained about George Floyd protests: book

In the aftermath of George Floyd's death while in Minneapolis police custody in May 2020, millions of Americans took to the streets to protest the manner in which he was killed while calling for greater attention to criminal justice reform throughout the United States.

However, Trump was not keen on the protests surrounding Floyd's death, and in a phone call with governors stressed that they needed to display a show of force against the activism that was increasingly becoming a part of the national conversation, according to a forthcoming book by New York Times reporters Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns.

In the book, "This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America's Future," Martin and Burns wrote that during a June 2020 conversation with the governors who were in office at the time, one of them remarked that the then-president seemed to be having a "nervous breakdown."

..."Savaging the racial-justice protestors around the country as 'terrorists,' Trump urged the governors to exact 'retribution' while demanding a swift return to public order," Martin and Burns wrote.

"Esper, a buttoned-down West Point graduate and former Raytheon executive, advised the governors that they should seek to 'dominate the battlespace' in their states.

In the Rose Garden later that day, Trump threatened to deploy federal troops if the governors did not move swiftly enough."
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  #2908948 1-May-2022 12:06
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kingdragonfly: ..."Savaging the racial-justice protestors around the country as 'terrorists,' Trump urged the governors to exact 'retribution' while demanding a swift return to public order" ...

 



 




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  #2908983 1-May-2022 16:59
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Trumpservatives like Jr suspicious about massive bump in Twitter followers in advance of handover to Musk:

NYPost: 87,296 new followers by Tuesday and another 119,022 by Wednesday morning — after weeks of averaging just roughly 7,000 per day.

“While I’m awesome and totally deserving of 87,000 new followers a day it seems that someone took the shackles off my account,” the former first son tweeted Tuesday — a day after Musk inked the blockbuster deal with the struggling social media giant.

Anyone else seeing bumps?

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  #2908991 1-May-2022 17:54
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A rush of Russian bots enrolling searching for hashtag "#PutinPuppet" and "#Usefulidiot"?

The Verge: Elon Musk’s Twitter plans are a huge can of worms

...One of Musk’s areas of concern is recommendation algorithms that amplify or downrank tweets and accounts in potentially biased ways. He’s proposed publishing Twitter’s algorithmic sorting systems on Github for people to publicly review and comment on, making something like the “top tweets” ranking system more theoretically legible.

...Musk has indicated that “spam and scam bots” and “bot armies” are Twitter’s new Public Enemy No. 1. That makes sense, as Musk is a perennial subject of scammy crypto impersonators. How he’d police this, however, is an open question. Unlike with speech maximalism, there’s no huge philosophical difference here — nobody likes spambots! Twitter already purges fake accounts and has banned certain features, like tweeting simultaneously from multiple accounts, that facilitate bot spam. So how would Musk do better?

Well, Musk could have some kind of hitherto-unannounced anti-spam tool in the works, although there’s no indication he’s spent more time thinking about this than Twitter’s own engineers have. (Again: Twitter has lots of incentives to police spam already!) Or Musk could simply decide to err far more heavily on blocking non-malicious automated account activity, locking down access to Twitter’s API, or demoting content from humans who act too much like bots.

Unfortunately, that goal would probably work in conflict with his push for freedom of expression and transparency. As mentioned above, publishing the inner workings of Twitter’s amplification system would also give spammers more tools to work with...

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