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  #2956900 20-Aug-2022 12:20
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Hungarian Prime Minister Orban's speech against race mixing slammed as racist. Longtime Orban advisor resigns in disgust saying "Nazi speech worthy of Goebbels".

Can Orban speak at CPAC? It's not a problem says the chief of the American Conservative Union:

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  #2956901 20-Aug-2022 12:20
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Rikkitic:

 

My question would be why do so many people young and old respond to this shit? Why does it not just evoke instant revulsion? Why does anyone even want to go down that path? What is it that appeals to people? Being feared is no substitute for being loved. 

 

 

I can't say for sure, but my personal feelings are either some parents simply aren't aware of what their children are watching online (as indicated in The Spinoff article), or the kids (somehow) see this a-hole as some kind of role model to aspire to, given the lack of parental guidance in their lives.

 

I will be letting any parents I know to steer clear of listening to this waste of oxygen.

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  #2957033 20-Aug-2022 17:20
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FineWine:

This type of rhetoric harks back to the 1930's & 1940's, where, at that time, this misogyny was across the world in the form of fascism.

 

 

Fascist movements, and their ideological equivalent in Stalinism, weren't particularly misogynistic, at least in the sense this guy is. Nazi Germany had more women in the workforce in peacetime than Britain did at the peak of wartime manpower shortages. The Red Army had female troops in frontline combat as well as important support roles like tank mechanics, something that the US and UK are still struggling with today, eighty years later. The full situation is way too complex to go into since you're frequently comparing apples to wombats, but automatically equating the type of misogyny that guy embodies with fascism isn't a good fit.

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  #2957036 20-Aug-2022 17:31
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Rikkitic:

My question would be why do so many people young and old respond to this shit? Why does it not just evoke instant revulsion? Why does anyone even want to go down that path? What is it that appeals to people?

 

 

That's the problem with the linked article, we don't know if this is 90% of schools or the class' top prick and his cluster of mates following him. Is this society as a whole or a couple of guys who got hooked on whatever the guy's name is in one class of one school?

 

 

More to the point, there's always been something corrupting our youth in schools. In my time it was heavy metal and roleplaying games, all leading to moral panics that died out once the next one came along. None of them ever led to actual devil-worshipping or human sacrifice or whatever they were supposed to lead to. Not wanting to downplay the experience the two teachers are reporting, but this one sounds like it could be another moral panic.

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  #2957052 20-Aug-2022 18:55
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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/19/politics/trump-vulnerable-repulicans-midterm-elections/index.html

 

I bet they don't! The guy is absolutely toxic.

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  #2957109 20-Aug-2022 20:14
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: Jared Kushner Most Likely Mar-a-Lago Mole Behind FBI Raid: Mary Trump

Mary Trump, a psychologist and Donald Trump's niece, speculated that Jared Kushner was the confidential source that tipped off the FBI to what confidential documents were being held at Mar-a-Lago and where they were located.
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"I think we need to look very hard at why Jared got $2 billion. We need to look very hard at why he has been so quiet for so many months now. And we need to think about who, if it, who could also be implicated in this that would need as big a play as turning Donald in, in order to get out of trouble, or at least to mitigate the trouble they're in," Mary Trump said.

"It sounds like somebody in Jared's position. I'm not saying it's Jared, but it could be," she added. Mary Trump appeared to be referring to the $2 billion investment Kushner secured from Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund about six months after his father-in-law's White House tenure came to an end.
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  #2957194 21-Aug-2022 08:25
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A judge ruled that Fox News’s parent company can be sued for 1 billion dollars by a voting-machine maker. He ruled Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch may have acted with “actual malice” in directing the network to broadcast conspiracy theories alleging the 2020 presidential election was rigged against Donald Trump.

Fox News has not interviewed Donald Trump in over 130 days.

Plus owner Murdoch wrote an editorial that Trump is unfit to be President in 2024.


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  #2957229 21-Aug-2022 11:04
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CBC: QAnon-inspired protest in Peterborough, Ontario Canada, prompts investigation

Ontario's civilian police watchdog is investigating an arrest in Peterborough, Ont., on Saturday that resulted in serious injuries during a QAnon-inspired protest, in what has become another example of far-right conspiracy theories having real-life consequences in Canada.

A few dozen people had gathered outside the city's police station after an appeal from a QAnon conspiracy theorist, who purports to be the "Queen of Canada," for citizens to arrest local officers.
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Peterborough Mayor Diane Therrien responded to the weekend protest on social media with a frustrated tweet, telling QAnon protesters to "f--k off, you f--kwads."

In an interview with CBC, she said the city has seen "a lot of activity from anti-vax, anti-everything, sort of right-wing conspiracy theorists" in recent years.

"This past weekend, there's a particular group of people who were coming to the city with the explicit intent to come in and arrest our police officers and to cause disruption, to cause harm to the community, which, you know, our first responders, our police officers and folks did a fantastic job at dealing with that lunacy," she said.

"There's a level of frustration amongst everyone in the community having to deal with this kind of stuff repeatedly because it's not new."
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AP News: Choose your reality: Trust wanes, conspiracy theories rise

...On the day before Independence Day in Boston this year, a group of about 100 masked men carrying fascist flags marched through the city. Members proudly uploaded videos and photos of the march to online forums popular with supporters of former President Donald Trump and QAnon adherents, who believe a group of satanic, cannibalistic child molesters secretly runs the globe.

Instead of praise, the white supremacists were met with incredulity. Some posters said the marchers were clearly FBI agents or members of antifa — shorthand for anti-fascists — looking to defame Trump supporters. It didn’t matter that the men boasted of their involvement and pleaded to be believed. “Another false flag,” wrote one self-described conservative on Telegram.

Similarly, when an extremist website that sells unregulated ghost guns — firearms without serial numbers — asked its followers about their July 4th plans, several people responded by accusing the group of working for the FBI. When someone claiming to be Q, the figure behind QAnon, reappeared online recently, many conservatives who support the movement speculated that the new Q was actually a government plant.
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  #2957243 21-Aug-2022 12:10
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Meanwhile, back in Georgia ...

 

The NY Times - Graham Ordered to Appear Before Atlanta Grand Jury Investigating Trump

 

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ATLANTA - A federal judge on Friday turned down a request by Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina to avoid testifying next week before a special grand jury investigating attempts by former President Trump and his allies to overturn his November 2020 election loss in Georgia.

 

The order, issued by U.S. District Court Judge Leigh Martin May, means that Mr. Graham, a South Carolina Republican and staunch Trump ally, is on track to appear in a closed-door session of the special grand jury on Tuesday ...

 

However, Mr. Graham already has taken his case to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, which has the ability to step in to postpone his appearance. ...

 

Mr. Graham is one of a number of Republican witnesses who have fought subpoenas to appear in person before the grand jury. So far, most have lost.

 

Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, spent hours before the same special grand jury earlier this week ...

 

 




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  #2957244 21-Aug-2022 12:12
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/18/dont-run-liz-dont-run-00052641

 

An argument for why Cheney shouldn't run for President in 2024.

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  #2957252 21-Aug-2022 12:40
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CBS: Local Alabama GOP, Republican, group apologizes after posting KKK imagery on its Facebook page

A local GOP group in Alabama has deleted its Facebook page after claiming it accidentally posted racist imagery on Tuesday. The post sparked outrage from local constituents, as well as state leaders.

The Lawrence Country Republican Party shared the image — which depicted the Republican National Committee elephant logo and the figures of three hooded Klansmen in between its legs — in an announcement naming the new county chairman, Shanon Terry.
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  #2957260 21-Aug-2022 13:22
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A local GOP group in Alabama has deleted its Facebook page after claiming it accidentally posted racist imagery on Tuesday. The post sparked outrage from local constituents, as well as state leaders.

 

That is some accident. You would have to be blind not to see it immediately. Maybe that local GOP group should be deleted. 

 

 




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  #2957412 21-Aug-2022 22:18
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/a-battle-is-under-way-for-the-republican-partys-heart-and-trump-is-winning/PG6KTIKPP2CAQQ2LVPYV3V6YXA/ << quite possibly he is winning - for now - but every dog has its day

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-white-house-documents-1234578868/ << oh dear!

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  #2957421 21-Aug-2022 23:30
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Also: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/21/trump-mar-a-lago-search-00052976 << an interesting look at some of the legal strategies Trump could try post-search. Some are a bit hit-and-miss.

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  #2957580 22-Aug-2022 09:59
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Visual representation of Trump's excuses for having illegally taken classified information, and left unsecured in a place full of foreign spies.

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