Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3014923 29-Dec-2022 08:14

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Another "How sad ...."

How sad it must be never having any real pals/friends for all your life. He was probably bullied at school as well.

It would be interesting seeing a list of his visitors while in prison. Probably won't need a big bit of paper to record them.

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#3014951 29-Dec-2022 10:01

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linw:

Another "How sad ...."

How sad it must be never having any real pals/friends for all your life. He was probably bullied at school as well.

It would be interesting seeing a list of his visitors while in prison. Probably won't need a big bit of paper to record them.

For all his failures, shortcomings and apparent inability to behave like a normal person, I don't think Trump is actually stupid. Obviously, he's no 'stable genius' but his IQ is probably close to average. So he'd be well aware that, deep down, he's a very unpleasant person whose only 'friends' are fools, creeps and sycophants.

This level of self-deprecation goes some way to explain his habit of referring to himself in the third person, i.e., he frequently refers to 'Trump' in writing and speech. For example, he once told Bill Barr, "You must hate Trump!" and he often mentions 'Trump' in emails and Tweets.

So it was with interest that I read this online:

'Talking in the third person is a way to disentangle yourself from the side of you that people are finding distasteful or disingenuous. If you can detach from the first person which you don’t like, in your mind you are more acceptable to those around you. Those who don’t wish to take responsibility for their actions often use this tactic to justify their behaviors. It’s not considered a mental illness but a form of justification.'

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3015058 29-Dec-2022 12:14

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In Trump's book “Think Like a Billionaire,” he writes “a narcissist does not hear the naysayers. At the Trump Organization, I listen to people, but my vision is my vision.”

He left out "...but any consequences , like going to jail, are their problem"

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#3015062 29-Dec-2022 12:27

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Donald Trump & the Narcissist’s Creed

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#3015101 29-Dec-2022 15:02

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kingdragonfly: In Trump's book “Think Like a Billionaire,” he writes “a narcissist does not hear the naysayers. ..."

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#3015102 29-Dec-2022 15:08

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geekIT:
For all his failures, shortcomings and apparent inability to behave like a normal person, I don't think Trump is actually stupid. Obviously, he's no 'stable genius' but his IQ is probably close to average. So he'd be well aware that, deep down, he's a very unpleasant person whose only 'friends' are fools, creeps and sycophants.

Narcissists don't work like that. When he says he's God's gift to the world, brilliant, everyone worships him, he only has the best people working for him, he's a genius, etc, he really believes that. Everywhere he goes, people fall at his feet because they're so much in awe of him. Everyone he meets is a famous person who wants to get close to his brilliance. Everything he does is a huge win and perfectly executed.

The conflict between this self-created fantasy and reality is caused by people or events constantly thwarting him. He was this close, and then some random event or bad person stopped him.

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#3015165 29-Dec-2022 19:14

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At last, someone who makes Marjorie Taylor Greene look good by comparison.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#3015166 29-Dec-2022 19:24

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I was reading about that guy too. What a screwup from start to finish. Unsurprisingly, Kevin McCarthy is completely silent - seems working for Trump has scared him into ever saying anything bad about any Republican, ever. Dunno how expects to function as leader of the House while being such a coward. Maybe he fears Trump will unleash his MAGA rent-a-mob on him again.

https://www.axios.com/2022/12/28/george-santos-nassau-da-republican-investigation

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#3015177 29-Dec-2022 20:18

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The law may get him for not explaining how he went from 50K income and spent 700K 2 years later. Very dodgy where the money came from.

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#3015186 29-Dec-2022 21:07

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Speaking of narcissists, do you think Trump would accept this fine wall hanging that flatters his ego?

(There's many variations of this on Etsy).

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#3015191 29-Dec-2022 21:31

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linw:

The law may get him for not explaining how he went from 50K income and spent 700K 2 years later. Very dodgy where the money came from.

https://www.thebulwark.com/george-santos-problems-are-just-getting-started/

Lying isn’t usually a crime. (Though there are exceptions for perjury and fraud.) Many of Santos’ alleged misrepresentations, such as his education and work history, that his employees were killed in the Pulse nightclub shooting, or that his family fled Nazi Germany, are inactionable by any authoritative body.

Where Santos’ pattern of misleading and outright dishonesty could become more serious is in his highly irregular financial disclosures.

I reckon eh, as per the above it's one thing to lie about your background and make stuff up about what you used to do for employment, but I bet it's the finances part that's going to completely screw him.

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#3015216 30-Dec-2022 08:00

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https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/the-gops-george-santos-dilemma

This helps explain why Santos will probably get away with this; in other words, Trump got away with lying all the time and the GOP did nothing - why change a winning formula? 🙄

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#3015417 30-Dec-2022 19:57

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Reported Friday night, NZ time

One News: Trump's tax returns to be released [Saturday] after long fight
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The committee obtained Trump’s personal and business tax records, from 2015 to 2020. They were obtained investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s failure to pursue mandatory audits of Trump during his presidency.

The release raises the potential of new revelations about Trump’s finances
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Trump broke political norms by refusing to make public his returns as he sought the presidency.

Instead, Trump has touted his wealth in the annual financial statements he gives to banks to secure loans and to financial magazines to justify his place on rankings of the world’s billionaires.

Trump’s longtime accounting firm has since disavowed the statements.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has filed a lawsuit alleging Trump and his Trump Organisation inflated asset values on the statements as part of a yearslong fraud.
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#3015469 31-Dec-2022 07:19

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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/12/29/2024-candidates-2022-00074972 << a look at where possible 2022 contenders stand in the 2024 presidential election

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/29/politics/january-6-committee-transcripts/index.html << quite a few bombshells in here from the January 6 Commission, a fair few from Trump's kids - although I don't buy his son saying that he had "no idea" what he was doing speaking at the rally beforehand.

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#3015587 31-Dec-2022 17:56

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The NY Times - Trump Tax Returns Undermine His Image as a Successful Entrepreneur

30 Dec 2022

The release of former President Donald J. Trump’s private tax documents by the House Ways and Means Committee shows heavy losses from his own ventures as he continued to cash in on inherited assets.

House Democrats released six years of former President Donald J. Trump’s tax records on Friday, offering new insight into his business dealings that further undermined his long-cultivated image as a wildly successful businessman. ...

But the returns, which cover the tax years 2015 through 2020, do not show much success for Mr. Trump in his recent business dealings.

They show Mr. Trump often reported heavy losses from his own ventures, even as he continued to cash in on assets he inherited. ...

In 2018, after a decade in which the former president declared no taxable income, Mr. Trump reported taxable income of more than $24 million. ...

That income appeared to be the result of more than $14 million in gains from the sale of an investment his father had made in the 1970s, which became part of Mr. Trump’s inheritance.

Everything Trump Touches Dies

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