Christopher Luxon, New Zealand Prime Minister 2023

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#3396994 25-Jul-2025 10:59

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/568005/kiwis-lucky-to-have-premium-butter-as-only-option-but-have-to-pay-market-price-for-it-federated-farmers

Federated Farmers Dairy Industry Group chairperson Karl Dean said New Zealanders had to pay the market rate.

"We are lucky we get a premium product as our only option... the rest of the world would love to have grass-fed butter all the time," he said.

That's strange, I don't feel "lucky" paying double what I did for the same product only 12 months ago? Another tone-deaf reply, which our Government - of course - expects to exactly nothing about? 🙄

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#3397003 25-Jul-2025 11:33

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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/568005/kiwis-lucky-to-have-premium-butter-as-only-option-but-have-to-pay-market-price-for-it-federated-farmers

Federated Farmers Dairy Industry Group chairperson Karl Dean said New Zealanders had to pay the market rate.

"We are lucky we get a premium product as our only option... the rest of the world would love to have grass-fed butter all the time," he said.

That's strange, I don't feel "lucky" paying double what I did for the same product only 12 months ago? Another tone-deaf reply, which our Government - of course - expects to exactly nothing about? 🙄

What is it that you want the government to do?

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#3397007 25-Jul-2025 11:45

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What is it that you want the government to do?

Put them in the ETS like everything else.

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#3397015 25-Jul-2025 12:14

SaltyNZ:

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What is it that you want the government to do?

Put them in the ETS like everything else.

How's that going to drop the price of butter? Isn't that todays complaint?

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#3397022 25-Jul-2025 12:30

Are there any overseas competitors in the local market?

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#3397030 25-Jul-2025 13:00

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How's that going to drop the price of butter? Isn't that todays complaint?

No but at least my taxpayer dollars won't be going towards supporting them. I can choose not to eat butter. But right now I am still paying them anyway even if I don't.

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#3397031 25-Jul-2025 13:01

SaltyNZ:

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How's that going to drop the price of butter? Isn't that todays complaint?

No but at least my taxpayer dollars won't be going towards supporting them. I can choose not to eat butter. But right now I am still paying them anyway even if I don't.

Cool story. It's not related to the price of butter which is what the complaint was about.

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#3397033 25-Jul-2025 13:09

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Cool story. It's not related to the price of butter which is what the complaint was about.

Of course it is. We, the taxpayers, save them hundreds of millions of dollars every year by not having to participate in the ETS like everyone else does. And in return for that taxpayer subsidy, we get treated the same as every other customer.

Now, as I said way above, I have no problem with them treating us like every other customer. As long as they don't turn around expect us to treat them specially unlike any other business.

Quid pro quo: if NZ is nothing special to them, why should they be anything special to NZ?

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#3397035 25-Jul-2025 13:13

SaltyNZ:

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Cool story. It's not related to the price of butter which is what the complaint was about.

Of course it is. We, the taxpayers, save them hundreds of millions of dollars every year by not having to participate in the ETS like everyone else does. And in return for that taxpayer subsidy, we get treated the same as every other customer.

Now, as I said way above, I have no problem with them treating us like every other customer. As long as they don't turn around expect us to treat them specially unlike any other business.

Quid pro quo: if NZ is nothing special to them, why should they be anything special to NZ?

Nah, it's just that you don't like farmers.

The comment I replied to, which was not from you, complained the government wasn't doing anything about the price of butter doubling. I'd like to know what the government should be doing to reduce the price of butter.

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#3397036 25-Jul-2025 13:13

gzt: Are there any overseas competitors in the local market?

I've seen Lurpak in New Zealand. Not sure if they are there anymore.

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#3397037 25-Jul-2025 13:15

Lurpak is still here.

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#3397041 25-Jul-2025 13:18

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Nah, it's just that you don't like farmers.

I have no problem with farmers. What I don't like is people who want it both ways. It just so happens that the most vocal farmers - and Fonterra - quite definitely want it both ways.

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#3397107 25-Jul-2025 15:59

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What I don't like is people who want it both ways.

Unless it's the greens and magical thinking. Then it's all good.

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#3397130 25-Jul-2025 17:17

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SaltyNZ:

What I don't like is people who want it both ways.

Unless it's the greens and magical thinking. Then it's all good.

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#3397274 26-Jul-2025 11:43

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I find his lack of support remarkable. Dame Jacinda Ardern had her supporters, no matter what. Sir John Key had an adoring fanbase. And Helen Clark had her rock-solid fanboys and girls. I’m yet to meet one person who is a fan of – and backs – Luxon.

He’s a man alone, without the charisma, charm or policies that are convincing New Zealanders they should stick with him. At this stage, mid-electoral cycle, voters are starting to look around and seeing that National has fulfilled few of its campaign promises.

Duncan Garner makes a case that the current National government will be a one-term-er.

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