Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3121154 28-Aug-2023 13:11

...and counting.

Trump crowned? No faux King way!

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#3121272 28-Aug-2023 16:25

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#3121274 28-Aug-2023 16:31

The Guardian: Trump legal team claims trial dates ‘by design’ clash with election campaign

Donald Trump’s legal spokesperson has predicted that forthcoming early trial dates in the former president’s four criminal cases will not hold, and that his multiple cases could clash with the final stages of the 2024 presidential election campaign and voting.

Alina Habba told the Fox News Sunday show that prosecutors’ plans for fast turnarounds in Trump’s two federal criminal cases and the state indictments in New York and Georgia amounted to “unrealistic theatrics”. She said that each of the trials would last from four to six weeks, raising the threat of overlapping schedules.

“No judge is going to say you can be in two trials in two different states, because a lot of these overlap. They are going to have to go into October, November of next year,” she said.

Habba, who acts as general counsel for the Trump-supporting political fundraising group Save America PAC, claimed that the possibility of extending the trials right up to election day, 5 November, next year, was “by design”.

She claimed, without providing evidence, that Fani Willis, the district attorney of Fulton county in Georgia who is leading the prosecution of Trump over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election result in Georgia, and Jack Smith, the special counsel who has spearheaded the two federal indictments, were engaged in a “coordinated effort” with partisan motive.
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"if you can't do the time, don't do the crime"

Ironically popularized by the theme song to the TV show "Baretta" starring Robert Blake.

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#3121468 29-Aug-2023 08:08

The NY Times - Judge Sets Trial Date in March for Trump’s Federal Election Case

Aug. 28, 2023

The federal judge overseeing former President Donald J. Trump’s prosecution on charges of conspiring to overturn the 2020 election set a trial date on Monday for early March, rebuffing Mr. Trump’s proposal to push it off until 2026.

The decision by Judge Tanya S. Chutkan to start the trial on March 4 amounted to an early victory for prosecutors ...

But it potentially brought the proceeding into conflict with the three other trials that Mr. Trump is facing, underscoring the extraordinary complexities of his legal situation and the intersection of the prosecutions with his campaign to return to the White House. ...

The March 4 date set by Judge Chutkan for the federal election case at a hearing in Federal District Court in Washington is the day before Super Tuesday, when 15 states are scheduled to hold Republican primaries or caucuses.

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Reuters - Trump says he'll appeal DC trial date; legal experts say that's not possible

"I will APPEAL," Trump said in a post on his Truth Social platform. He did not say how or when the appeal would be made.

A trial court's scheduling decision is not a legitimate basis for an appeal prior to a verdict being reached, according to legal experts.

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#3121485 29-Aug-2023 09:13

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The NY Times - Judge Sets Trial Date in March for Trump’s Federal Election Case

“Mr. Trump, like any defendant, will have to make the trial date work regardless of his schedule,” Judge Chutkan said, adding that “there is a societal interest to a speedy trial.”

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#3121496 29-Aug-2023 09:46

I'd love to see these scheduling clashes result in the Orange Avenger missing a court date, while in court elsewhere and him being held in contempt and an arrest warrant being issued. It would just be funny.

I loathe the person he is and the ideology he represents. I still don't think he'll end up doing any meaningful time in federal prison.

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#3121512 29-Aug-2023 10:20

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows did take the stand today.

It’s a risky move to put the defendant on the stand – and subject them to cross-examination from prosecutors – for a pretrial motion, but it demonstrates the importance that Meadows has placed on changing the venue.

He used language that would Sir Humphrey proud

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#3121528 29-Aug-2023 11:23

The Washington Post - March trial date for Trump in D.C.

28 Aug 23

A look at the updated calendar:

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#3121560 29-Aug-2023 12:01

Candidate with appeal for all voters...

Trump crowned? No faux King way!

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#3121584 29-Aug-2023 13:24

Retired conservative federal judge J. Michael Luttig and Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Laurence Tribe make the case that Trump is disqualified from state ballots.

The Atlantic: The Constitution prohibits Trump from ever being President again

As students of the United States Constitution for many decades—one of us as a U.S. Court of Appeals judge, the other as a professor of constitutional law, and both as constitutional advocates, scholars, and practitioners—we long ago came to the conclusion that the Fourteenth Amendment contains within it a protection against the dissolution of the republic by a treasonous president.

In the amendment’s Section 3, automatically excludes from future office and position of power in the United States government any person who has taken an oath to support and defend our Constitution.

The historically unprecedented federal and state indictments of former President Donald Trump have prompted many to ask whether his conviction pursuant to any or all of these indictments would be either necessary or sufficient to deny him the office of the presidency in 2024.

Both of us concluded some years ago that, in fact, a conviction would be beside the point. The disqualification clause operates independently of any such criminal proceedings and, indeed, also independently of impeachment proceedings and of congressional legislation. The clause was designed to operate directly and immediately upon those who betray their oaths to the Constitution, whether by taking up arms to overturn our government or by waging war on our government by attempting to overturn a presidential election through a bloodless coup.
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#3121731 30-Aug-2023 05:16

Trump doing this and that

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Qui nihil scit, omnia credere debet. - He who knows nothing must believe everything.
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In effect we have everything to hide from someone, and no idea who someone is.

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#3121732 30-Aug-2023 06:04

Geoff Duncan, the former Georgia lieutenant governor

The Guardian - Trump has ‘moral compass of an axe murderer,’ says Georgia Republican

29 Aug 23

Donald Trump has “the moral compass of an axe murderer”, a Republican opponent in Georgia said, discussing the former president’s legal predicament in the southern US state and elsewhere but also his continuing dominance of the presidential primary. ...

“Ninety-one indictments,” Duncan* said. “Fake Republican, a trillion dollars’ worth of debt [from his time in the White House], everything we need to see to not choose him as our nominee, including the fact that he’s got the moral compass ... more like an axe murderer than a president."...

Describing “a two-plus-year crime spree from coast to coast”, Duncan said Trump’s roster of wrongdoing was “like some sort of Ponzi scheme of lies”.

* Geoff Duncan was the [Republican] lieutenant governor of Georgia when Trump tried to overturn his defeat there by Joe Biden in 2020.

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#3121737 30-Aug-2023 06:29

Gone with the Wind

The NY Times - Opinion - What Fani Willis Got Wrong in Her Trump Indictment

29 Aug 23

By assembling a sprawling, 19-defendant RICO indictment with 41 counts, District Attorney Fani Willis of Fulton County has brought the sort of charging instrument that has typically led to months-long trials, complicated appeals and exhaustion for the participating attorneys.

Now, as some co-defendants seek federal removal while others demand speedy trials in state court, we are starting to see the costs of complexity.

In federal and state cases, Donald Trump’s legal game plan has always been the same: delay often and everywhere with the goal of winning the 2024 election and hoping the charges go away. ...

The Georgia indictment is a sprawling account of a conspiracy among the former president, his closest advisers and state and local Republican officials to change the outcome of the 2020 Georgia election through an escalating series of falsehoods.

For many, it is a satisfying political document.

But as a legal instrument, its ambitious scope will provide the co-defendants with many opportunities for delay, appeals, and constitutional challenges.

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#3121754 30-Aug-2023 08:15

Sideface: The NY Times - Opinion: But as a legal instrument, its ambitious scope will provide the co-defendants with many opportunities for delay, appeals, and constitutional challenges.

Counterpoint: it's likely to be televised, and will be a death by a thousand cuts for many.

I think Trump is in a lot of trouble, in Jack Smith's case.

Not so much for keeping classified documents, but having a witness, and video evidence, of him attempting to destroy evidence, by giving orders to destroy servers with incriminating evidence.

In a similar vein, the Youtuber Trevor Daniel Jacob intentionally wrecked his plane. He is looking at 20 years in prison. While he's in a bit of trouble for staging a wreck, the serious charge is "one count of destruction and concealment with the intent to obstruct a federal investigation"

Forbes: YouTuber Who Intentionally Crashed Plane Pleads Guilty, Faces 20 Years In Prison

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