Joe Rogan N-word montage triggers another apology

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Rikkitic

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#2870895 18-Feb-2022 14:47

Here is a good article in the Washington Post on the subject. If you can't access it, this excerpt sums it up:

"But I’m highlighting the vile words of Arbery’s killers for the elucidation of anyone who might believe that this kind of raw, unapologetic racism is a thing of the past. For the education of anyone who imagines that U.S. history can be taught in schools without teaching Black history, or that Black history can be taught without making anyone the slightest bit uncomfortable. For the benefit of anyone who fantasizes that we inhabit a nation where all individuals are judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

The point here being, that it isn't 'just a word'. It is an integral part of an ongoing historic process that dehumanises and victimises people solely on the basis of their apparent racial characteristics. The word causes real hurt to many people, even when used in a seemingly innocuous manner. For most of us, it should never be used at all.

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#2870967 18-Feb-2022 16:25

Great video @jarledb, and great points @Rikkitic

Unrelated to Joe Rogan's montage and apology, some might find this interesting. Until recently, it was reported the Joe Rogan was worth $100 million. It's actually was worth $200 million.

New York Times: Spotify Bet Big on Joe Rogan. It Got More Than It Counted On.

It was the deal that helped make Spotify a podcasting giant, but has now put the company at the center of a fiery debate about misinformation and free speech.

Spotify was already the king of music streaming. But to help propel the company into its next phase as an all-purpose audio juggernaut, and further challenge Apple and Google, it wanted a superstar podcaster, much as Howard Stern helped put satellite radio on the map in 2006. Spotify executives came to view Joe Rogan — a comedian and sports commentator whose no-holds-barred podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” was already a monster hit on YouTube — as that transformative star.

In May 2020, after an intense courtship, Spotify announced a licensing agreement to host Mr. Rogan’s show exclusively. Although reported then to be worth more than $100 million, the true value of the deal that was negotiated at the time, which covered three and a half years, was at least $200 million, with the possibility of more, according to two people familiar with the details of the transaction who spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to discuss it.

But in recent weeks the show that helped Spotify catapult into a market leader for podcasts has also placed it at the center of the sort of cultural storm that has long engulfed Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, over questions about the responsibility tech behemoths have for the content on their platforms.
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#2871045 18-Feb-2022 20:28

Rikkitic:

The point here being, that it isn't 'just a word'. It is an integral part of an ongoing historic process that dehumanises and victimises people solely on the basis of their apparent racial characteristics. The word causes real hurt to many people, even when used in a seemingly innocuous manner. For most of us, it should never be used at all.

I think the N word is one of perhaps 3 that are the worst in the English language, it makes my skin crawl when I hear it regardless of context.

Having said that, it's used commonly, frequently in black communities, and is used as both a term of endearment, a threat, an insult (and intended to be every bit as derogatory as it was used back in slavery days), a joke and everything in between (and some of those are determined by whether it has an "er" or an "a" at the end. The context and negative historical significance use of the word should really make it unacceptable for use by any community for any purpose IMO. It surprises me that any community of any colour race or creed would want it as part of their lingo.

I wish it was gone forever, but my say in this is obviously entirely irrelevant, but I can understand why people get confused over whether it's acceptable.

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#2904506 20-Apr-2022 18:36

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