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#3472957 24-Mar-2026 08:40

nunasdream: And Iran are denying there are such talks. It's rather frustrating that you cannot trust either party here to be reliable.

One party has a longer track record of genuine negotiation and engagement. That's for sure.

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#3472964 24-Mar-2026 09:10

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nunasdream: And Iran are denying there are such talks. It's rather frustrating that you cannot trust either party here to be reliable.

One party has a longer track record of genuine negotiation and engagement. That's for sure.

For sure; the only reason Iran was going down the path of increased enrichment over the last few years was because effing Trump tore down the deal they previously agreed to (and even US intelligence said they were sticking to) because a black man made it. After that, why would anyone possibly think that Iran would agree to a new deal while Trump or his plausible successors were in power in the US? They may be hardcore theocratic bastards but they aren't completely stupid.

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#3472981 24-Mar-2026 09:54

Trump's dump of the deal was likely more motivated by an early campaign failure in 2015 and feeling a need to turn that around. Rubio was probably ahead of Trump at that time. It also involved a bunch of unpleasant and completely inaccurate stereotyping by Trump, which apparently was not the main issue of concern raised. Anyone can Google it. I'm not going to link just because it's not pretty.

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#3472987 24-Mar-2026 10:09

Taco day at the Whitehouse.
Suppose family got heads up to play futures market and rug pull.

IRGC's greatest frustration at the moment would be Trump delaying so long the 'Boots on Ground' and 'forcing the strait'.
Pretty sure they look forward to blood revenge on an opponent who can't take casualties to degree they can.

As ANZAC day approaches, expect this will be still going on.

Trump who's only study of history is a collection of Hitler's speeches by his bedside.
Invoking Winston Churchill, while taking about 'forcing the narrows' and boots on the ground.

Israel at the moment is more realistic indicating this has a lot more weeks to go.

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#3472994 24-Mar-2026 10:26

CNN takes a look back in time at the late 80's "Tanker War" in the Strait of Hormuz:

USA Navy arrived to support the belligerent Saddam Hussain's Iraq - against Iran. USA Navy suffered two ships destroyed and very nearly lost them at sea. One was destroyed by some very keen friendly fire from Iraq and maybe does not count so much.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/22/middleeast/iran-war-history-tanker-wars-intl-hnk-ml

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#3473103 24-Mar-2026 12:39

NATO leader says he expects Europe will come together on Iran

Mark Rutte also expressed full support for the military campaign against Iran.

I think Mark Rutte needs to pull his head out of daddy's arse.

At least Sir Keir Starmer is saying that the war is illegal and the UK won't get involved in anything other than defence.

PM warns against 'false comfort' of thinking Iran war will end quickly

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#3473152 24-Mar-2026 14:44

gzt: CNN takes a look back in time at the late 80's "Tanker War" in the Strait of Hormuz:

USA Navy arrived to support the belligerent Saddam Hussain's Iraq - against Iran. USA Navy suffered two ships destroyed and very nearly lost them at sea. One was destroyed by some very keen friendly fire from Iraq and maybe does not count so much.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/22/middleeast/iran-war-history-tanker-wars-intl-hnk-ml

Good article. I forgot the Iraqi's friendly fire shooting the USS Stark, killing 37.

USS Samuel B. Roberts was not destroyed. It did get catastrophically damaged by an Iranian mine and almost sank.

No other U.S. Navy ship was destroyed in that conflict.

I think the US Navy's luck will be much worse when it comes under modern drone swarm attacks.

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#3473153 24-Mar-2026 14:45

nunasdream:

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Finally there has been some positive news with Trump backing away from the power plant attacks and saying that there are talks to end hostilities.

I'll believe it when it's done but at least it's a step in the right direction.

And Iran are denying there are such talks. It's rather frustrating that you cannot trust either party here to be reliable.

If thats true, that there are no talks, then this is a signal to Iran that Trump no longer wishes to continue the war and wants to calm the markets.

This would encourage Iran to continue the war to achieve a better position at the table when that time comes. The Iranians might hope that continuation of the war and ensuing economic pain in the US will affect Trump at the ballot box.

I am sure they are not the only country to wish for regime change.

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#3473159 24-Mar-2026 15:01

USS Samuel B. Roberts was not destroyed. It did get catastrophically damaged by an Iranian mine and almost sank.

"All but destroyed" may have been a better expression.

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#3473164 24-Mar-2026 15:09

roobarb:
NATO leader says he expects Europe will come together on Iran

Mark Rutte also expressed full support for the military campaign against Iran.

I think Mark Rutte needs to pull his head out of daddy's arse.

At least Sir Keir Starmer is saying that the war is illegal and the UK won't get involved in anything other than defence.

PM warns against 'false comfort' of thinking Iran war will end quickly

Mark Rutte previously served as prime minister of the Netherlands.

He was the leader of the slightly odd "People's Party for Freedom and Democracy."
By odd, I mean it's a centre-right political party, but also "conservative-liberal".

Off topic, but there are three far-right political parties in the Netherlands, which in the most recent election took 27% of the vote.

He's definitely friends with Trump, though obviously NATO is Trump's punching bag.

Trump repeatedly calls Rutte “a friend”, “fantastic”, “highly respected”, “doing a great job” Which means Trump is mere minutes from throwing him under the bus.

It could be worse. At least there's not a wrestler or Fox News influencer running NATO (yet)

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#3473170 24-Mar-2026 15:17

A bit of US propaganda, but if you're interested in last generation Navy ship, you might find interesting.

1998 accidentally backing into a mine to start the largest Navy battle since WW2

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#3473176 24-Mar-2026 15:36

roobarb:

I think Mark Rutte needs to pull his head out of daddy's arse.

Mark is incredibly slippery. He knows exactly how to handle Trump without getting bitten. He's not a head of state, but a kind of diplomatic harlequin (in a positive sense). 😁

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#3473181 24-Mar-2026 15:55

I get the feeling that the US pause in the stupidity is to allow time to rearm, rotate personnel and to repair assets. Then they will resume the insanity

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.