Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3220538 20-Apr-2024 09:40

AlterNet - Opinion - The Trump voter fraud paradox

After making more than three years of unfounded claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him, Trump is now warning of an even bigger theft in 2024.

But the tactic will backfire if enough potential Trump voters decide there’s no point in voting because the game is already rigged against them.

What’s Trump’s answer to this paradox? “We want a landslide,” Trump said at a recent rally in Greensboro, North Carolina. “We have to win so that it’s too big to rig.”

Trump has begun using the “too big to rig” phrase at campaign rallies in recent weeks to get his supporters to turn out in even larger numbers.

Yet it’s far from clear the “too big to rig” tactic will generate enough Trump votes to compensate for all the Trump voters who will stay home because Trump has made them so cynical about voter fraud that they assume there’s no point in voting.

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#3220541 20-Apr-2024 09:45

Sweet, I'm happy if next-to-no Republicans vote at all, means a higher number of Democratic votes will be cast 👍

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#3220544 20-Apr-2024 09:51

The Guardian - Trump on Trial

Apr 19, 2024

What will prosecutors be allowed to ask Trump if he takes the stand?

Court resumed Friday afternoon with what’s called a “Sandoval hearing” – a pre-trial meeting to discuss a list of things prosecutors want to ask the defendant should he choose to take the stand.

In this case, the main issues prosecutors want to bring up if Trump decides to testify are previous court cases that undercut his credibility. They include:

• Two recent court findings that Trump defamed E Jean Carroll, who accused him of raping her.

• A recent court finding that Trump illegally inflated his business assets to get better loan terms, which led to a nearly half-billion-dollar penalty in a recent civil business fraud trial.

• Trump’s lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, which was dismissed in 2022 as “frivolous” and “bad faith” by the judge.

• A 2016 campaign fundraiser held by the Donald J Trump Foundation that violated campaign finance law, forcing him to pay $2m for breach of fiduciary duty.

Trump attorney Emil Bove argued that to bring in the Carroll verdicts would push “the salaciousness onto another level” for the case. But prosecutors called it “critical, critical” evidence.

Merchan said he would announce what he’ll permit on Monday.

EDIT: The aim of a Sandoval hearing is to let a defendant decide whether it is in his or her best interest to testify. The Sandoval hearing is unique to the New York State criminal court system.

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#3220602 20-Apr-2024 10:55

A couple of funny (and relevant) cartoons relating to the last week:

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#3220603 20-Apr-2024 10:59

Trump crowned? No faux King way!

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#3220605 20-Apr-2024 11:01

There is a running joke in a chat I participate on about pineapple on pizza. So I changed the group chat name to "Make Ananas Great Again"

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#3220623 20-Apr-2024 12:35

Trump warns that Obama, Bush and Biden will be 'in BIG TROUBLE' ...

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#3220646 20-Apr-2024 13:36

"ABC’s This Week", host George Stephanopoulos asked Chris Sununu, New Hampshire’s Republican governor, about supporting Trump.

TV host: “Your words were very, very clear on January 11, 2021. You said that President Trump’s rhetoric and actions contributed to the insurrection. No other president in history has contributed to an insurrection. So, please explain.”

Republican governor: “For me, it’s not about him as much as it is having a Republican administration.”
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Near the end of the interview, TV host: “Just to sum up, you would support him for president even if he is convicted in classified documents. You would support him for president even though you believe he contributed to an insurrection. You would support him for president even though you believe he’s lying about the last election. You would support him for president even if he’s convicted in the Manhattan case. I just want to say, the answer to that is yes, correct?”

Republican governor: “Yeah, me and 51% of America.”

TV host: “I’m asking you about right and wrong. You’re comfortable with the idea of supporting someone who’s convicted of a federal crime as president?”

Republican governor: “No, I don’t think any American is comfortable with any of this.

They don’t like any of this, of course, but I mean, when it comes to actually looking at each of these trials as they kind of take place whether it’s this year or next year or as they kind of line up.

Right now this is about an election. This is about politics.”

Trump's Manhattan trial will not have ‘major political ramifications’: Chris Sununu

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#3220665 20-Apr-2024 15:01

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Trump warns that Obama, Bush and Biden will be 'in BIG TROUBLE' ...

1) There's no way Trump wrote that. There aren't enough caps and the grammar is passable.

2) IMHO, Presidential Immunity is not only undemocratic but unworkable within the framework of an electoral system that allows an idiot to become President.

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#3220668 20-Apr-2024 15:07

The Guardian: Trump on Trial: Monday the 22nd

Court resumed Friday afternoon with what’s called a “Sandoval hearing” – a pre-trial meeting to discuss a list of things prosecutors want to ask the defendant should he choose to take the stand.

In this case, the main issues prosecutors want to bring up if Trump decides to testify are previous court cases that undercut his credibility. They include:

Two recent court findings that Trump defamed E Jean Carroll, who accused him of raping her.
A recent court finding that Trump illegally inflated his business assets to get better loan terms, which led to a nearly half-billion-dollar penalty in a recent civil business fraud trial.
Trump’s lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, which was dismissed in 2022 as “frivolous” and “bad faith” by the judge.
A 2016 campaign fundraiser held by the Donald J Trump Foundation that violated campaign finance law, forcing him to pay $2m for breach of fiduciary duty.

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Trump’s team also tried to force another trial delay on Friday by going around Judge Merchan
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Merchan told Trump’s attorneys that they needed to stop trying to re-litigate his every decision and insisted they stop fighting him on decided issues.

“That has to end. There comes a point when you accept my rulings,” he said. “This trial is starting.”

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#3220669 20-Apr-2024 15:08

freitasm:
There is a running joke in a chat I participate on about pineapple on pizza .

Ah, a therapy group then.

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#3220671 20-Apr-2024 15:14

Medhi Hasan's new show interviews Anthony Scaramucci now one of the most clear minded former Trump officials

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#3220673 20-Apr-2024 15:29

geekIT: ... IMHO, Presidential Immunity is not only undemocratic but unworkable within the framework of an electoral system that allows an idiot to become President.

... an amoral, sociopathic idiot who is developing senile dementia.

He reminds me of Emperor Nero, only dumber. ...

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#3220677 20-Apr-2024 15:54

Bill Maher on potential jurors 😜

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#3220684 20-Apr-2024 16:28

quickymart:

Sweet, I'm happy if next-to-no Republicans vote at all, means a higher number of Democratic votes will be cast 👍

And if RFK Jr turns out to be more Ross Perot than Jill Stein/Ralph Nader. His pro-Netanyahu stance is likely to turn off younger voters attuned to what's happening in Gaza.

"I regret to say that we of the F.B.I. are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce." — J. Edgar Hoover

"Create a society that values material things above all else. Strip it of industry. Raise taxes for the poor and reduce them for the rich and for corporations. Prop up failed financial institutions with public money. Ask for more tax, while vastly reducing public services. Put adverts everywhere, regardless of people's ability to afford the things they advertise. Allow the cost of food and housing to eclipse people's ability to pay for them. Light blue touch paper." — Andrew Maxwell

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