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  #3428375 28-Oct-2025 10:18
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Willis on RNZ:

RNZ: "It is certainly not narrow; they have said it would be a tax on every piece of commercial property in the country. That will hit many, many businesses, from a corner dairy to a manufacturing facility. It will also hit everyone who saved and put money into KiwiSaver, because some businesses in their KiwiSaver will now face a new tax. "And it will hit every Kiwi who saved hard for a rental property or an investment in a commercial business. To call it narrow is completely misleading."

Labour policy:

Labour:
- The family home, farms, KiwiSaver, shares, business assets, inheritances, and personal items will be exempt.
- Nine out of 10 New Zealanders won’t pay tax on the property they own, and everyone will get three free visits a year to the doctor.
- A targeted capital gains tax [28%] on the profit made after 1 July 2027 when a commercial property or residential property (excluding the family home) is sold.

Every dollar raised will go straight into the health system, including funding three free doctor’s visits a year for everyone with a new Medicard.

Eg; A landlord or property developer or business buying a property for $650,000 and selling it for $900,000 with a gain of $250k will potentially pay up to $70k in CGT and take home at least $180k. I assume usual cost base rules will apply and you'll pay less if you spent money improving it, renovation etc.



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  #3428385 28-Oct-2025 11:45
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Willis once said she would not be taking maths lessons from Chloe Swarbrick. Well, as an electrical engineer who has forgotten more maths than an English Literature graduate ever learned ... maybe she should.





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  #3428392 28-Oct-2025 12:00
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We know that health needs more funding for more doctors etc, I don't believe though that all NZ need 3 free GP visits per year. We have community services cards that allow for discounted GP visits, perhaps the settings on those can be tweaked so that the increased support is targeted where it needs to be. If we aren't wasting money giving it to people that don't really need it, then thats more for those that do. 

 

The arguments for a narrow based CGT are probably outweighed by the potential good that may come from the additional funding, the details of costing and benefits will no doubt be released overtime to allow for proper analysis to see whether or not the settings are proportionate. For now, we have a rushed announcement forced by someone talking out of school.

 

 




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  #3428394 28-Oct-2025 12:05
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gzt:  I assume usual cost base rules will apply and you'll pay less if you spent money improving it, renovation etc.

 

 

 

Yes, this later RNZ article confirms it.

 

 

 

 

The CGT would also not apply when property was transferred between life partners, and the costs of capital improvements would be deducted from sale proceeds - with clear requirements to prove the improvements had been made - when calculating the net gain.

 

 

 





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  #3428413 28-Oct-2025 13:34
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"Nicola Willis says Labour's capital gains tax policy would put NZ’s economy at risk"

 

Right. As if she knows anything about the NZ economy given she's tanking it and still playing the blame game.





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  #3428466 28-Oct-2025 14:20
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sen8or:

 

We know that health needs more funding for more doctors etc, I don't believe though that all NZ need 3 free GP visits per year. We have community services cards that allow for discounted GP visits, perhaps the settings on those can be tweaked so that the increased support is targeted where it needs to be. If we aren't wasting money giving it to people that don't really need it, then thats more for those that do. 

 

 

Agree with that. There should be some way to target it rather than give it to everyone. The community services card seems a good place when that usually gives a discount (looking at the website at my practice the standard fee is $82, but $20 for CSC holders).

 

Maybe I’m looking at it from a place of privilege. I think I’m “middle income” - not close to 6 figures but am generally in good health and I can pay for a GP visit once or twice a year if needed. But is the cost the biggest barrier to going, or is it more that there are not enough GPs so you have to wait weeks for an appointment? At a quick glance at Manage my Health the next available appointment with my regular one is 11th November. That’s ok if it’s just a general check up but 2 weeks is a long time for an irritating issue that you need to get sorted quickly. The 2 week wait is possibly not bad compared to others. My one is on the pricey side being in the CBD in Wellington (it’s just logistically easier to go to one close to work), and it’s a large one with 6 doctors and a nurse practitioner. I imagine in smaller practices out in the suburbs or smaller towns with only 1 or 2 doctors there’s a longer wait for an appointment. Do people just go to ED for minor things because it's free or because they can't get an appointment at their GP?

 

Won’t making the appointments free make the wait time for an appointment worse as those who currently ignore minor issues due to the cost now make appointments? Perhaps it will reduce the load on ED by shifting some of it back to the GPs.


 
 
 
 

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  #3428488 28-Oct-2025 15:36
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So are rising house prices good or bad now? 

 

Can't keep up anymore sorry. 


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  #3428498 28-Oct-2025 16:58
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the family house increasing, good, the batch and the rental, not so good.

 

 

 

For sale, 1 rental property for $1, by coincidence, also for sale, this stick, $ 1.8mio. no property investment capital gains here sir......


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  #3428562 28-Oct-2025 20:58
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SaltyNZ:

 

Willis once said she would not be taking maths lessons from Chloe Swarbrick. Well, as an electrical engineer who has forgotten more maths than an English Literature graduate ever learned ... maybe she should.

 

 

Do they teach maths by Chloe before or after being on time by Marama?


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  #3428611 28-Oct-2025 22:13
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Do they teach maths by Chloe before or after being on time by Marama?

 

 

 

 

Yeah, embarrassing. But it seems like a lot of MPs must have very hectic schedules these days.

 

Fortunately for people who like watching ads, though, the government found it in their hearts to let this vital bill have another crack at it so you can now watch them on Christmas Day too (what a fantastic way to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Saviour with a medley of the Briscoes lady's greatest hits!), whilst quite rightly tossing out a bill which would merely give you the ability to have a right to repair an expensive item instead of throwing it out and replacing it.





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  #3428726 29-Oct-2025 10:02
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SaltyNZ:

 

whilst quite rightly tossing out a bill which would merely give you the ability to have a right to repair an expensive item instead of throwing it out and replacing it.

 

 

Didn't this get tossed because the Green MP who put it forward didn't show up to speak for it?


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  #3428769 29-Oct-2025 12:20
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GV27:

 

Didn't this get tossed because the Green MP who put it forward didn't show up to speak for it?

 

 

 

 

Yes, as @Handle9 was implying. My point was that they tossed it for Marama being 5 minutes late to the chamber. But they kept the vitally important bill to allow advertising on Christmas Day when most of the Government didn't turn up for it at all.





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  #3429231 30-Oct-2025 10:44
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SaltyNZ:

 

Yes, as @Handle9 was implying. My point was that they tossed it for Marama being 5 minutes late to the chamber. But they kept the vitally important bill to allow advertising on Christmas Day when most of the Government didn't turn up for it at all.

 

 

And yet they were organised enough for it to actually progress. 

 

Is your point just that you think there should be more MPs actually in parliament for debates? I can get behind that, particularly list MPs who don't have obligations to far-flung electorates. 

 

But the fact the National whips are on top of their proxies for members who are not there vs. the Greens not making a call on a member's bill is reaching, tbh. Especially when there's plenty of actual dumb stuff National is doing you could rightly go to town on them for.


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  #3429232 30-Oct-2025 10:45
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ROFL

 





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  #3429246 30-Oct-2025 11:20
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The tail not only wags the dog, it tells it which way to go!

 

 





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