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#3264921 26-Jul-2024 22:36

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Or...

(also applies to the ridiculous "Let's Go Brandon" bumper stickers)

Edit: and now Trump wants to back out of debating against Harris - so much for "anytime, anywhere!" He must be scared 😄

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kamala-harris-trump-debate-any-time-b2586303.html

“Given the continued political chaos surrounding Crooked Joe Biden and the Democrat Party, general election details cannot be finalized until Democrats formally decide on their nominee,” the Trump campaign’s communications director Steven Cheung said in a statement. Yeah, righto, whatever mate 🙄

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#3264972 27-Jul-2024 09:12

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It looks like Trump's choice of Vice President showcase his skills in reliably choosing losers, a la Trump steaks, Trump water, Trump airline, Trump casino, Trump University, ...

The Conversation: JD Vance’s selection as Trump’s running mate marks the end of Republican conservatism

Since Donald Trump chose Ohio Sen. JD Vance as his running mate, it’s been widely noted that Vance once described Trump as “reprehensible” and “cultural heroin.” However, the day after Vance won his own Senate race in 2022, he reportedly made it known that he would support Trump for president in 2024.

Given this dramatic change, what does Vance’s selection mean for the Republican Party and conservatism, the political philosophy that the GOP once claimed to embrace?
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Everyday citizens define conservatism in different ways, but at its root it is a philosophy that supports smaller and less-centralized government because consolidated power could be used to silence political competition and deny citizens their liberties.

Since 2015, Trump has tightened his grip on the Republican Party, moving it further away from its professed conservative ideology. The choice of Vance as Trump’s running mate – and the competition that preceded it – are the latest steps in this process.
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Many considerations affect the choice of a running mate. But Vance doesn’t represent a swing state. He probably won’t appeal to MAGA-skeptical independent voters who have yet to make up their minds about who to vote for.

Instead, people close to Trump call the 39-year-old Vance the new heir to Trump’s MAGA movement. Vance is more than a protegé, though; he embodies Trump’s influence on the Republican Party’s
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If there was any speculation that Republicans would revert to some form of traditional conservatism after Trump leaves politics, the prospect of a JD Vance presidency makes clear that the answer is no.

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#3264977 27-Jul-2024 09:30

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Newstalk Zb: New survey finds 75 percent of Kiwis are concerned over potential second Trump presidency

New Zealanders seem to be eyeing the upcoming US election with apprehension.

New polling from Talbot Mills shows about 75 percent of New Zealanders are concerned about the prospect of a second Donald Trump presidency.

Half of respondents say they are either extremely concerned - or very concerned.
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#3265099 27-Jul-2024 11:41

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kingdragonfly: Newstalk Zb: New survey finds 75 percent of Kiwis are concerned over potential second Trump presidency

New Zealanders seem to be eyeing the upcoming US election with apprehension.

New polling from Talbot Mills shows about 75 percent of New Zealanders are concerned about the prospect of a second Donald Trump presidency.

Half of respondents say they are either extremely concerned - or very concerned.

Not surprising, given that the outcome of US Presidential elections affects the entire world. Every citizen of every democratic country should also have a say in what happens there.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3265105 27-Jul-2024 11:55

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New York Times: Trump's New York prosecutors say immunity ruling has no bearing on Trump’s conviction

The Manhattan district attorney’s office argued that a recent Supreme Court ruling did not apply to the type of evidence it had deployed against the former president.

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#3265161 27-Jul-2024 15:14

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The New, Improved Don

Note the trendy new ear bandage.

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#3265166 27-Jul-2024 16:00

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This is what Trump wants: "The former president urged attendees at the faith-themed event to vote — “Vote early. Vote absentee. Vote on Election Day. I don’t care how, but you have to get out and vote,” he said — and promised that in four years, “we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote.”"

No more voting sounds like a dictatorship to me.

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#3265167 27-Jul-2024 16:02

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Trump braves the world, ignoring his disfigurement as the bandage comes off. :-)

I do find the whole God saved Trump thing disgusting.
There was another, that if there is an interventionist God, God did not save.

Vs Casino of life.

From DailyBeast for what its worth.

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#3265173 27-Jul-2024 16:24

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He hardly seems to have inflicted any damage at all. I'm curious as to what the medical reports said afterwards - was his hearing impacted, for example?

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#3265198 27-Jul-2024 18:06

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quickymart:

He hardly seems to have inflicted any damage at all. I'm curious as to what the medical reports said afterwards - was his hearing impacted, for example?

yes, unfortunately Trumps team got to anybody who treated Trump at the hospital or on scene first, meaning, another cover up (no pun). That SCREAMS cover up, for whatever reason.

now I want to know is the FCC going to launch and investigation into the alleged "N" word tapes, after Trumps nephew recalling Trump using the word frequently when he was growing up.

Honestly anybody of any mixed race has no part in P2025; and any plans for Trump to say he has no connection if beyond absurd already, now have JD Vance righting the intro for the figure head of the groups Book (sorry forget the mans name).

So whether proven or not Harris needs to start adding racist to the "typecast" she is building when referring to Trump.

The one Demographic they are missing is older ie 40+ white males. So the running mate becomes critical. They need ideally somebody from a large swing state who speaks "all american" like Mr ASTRONAUT Mark Kelly D. Arizona who can explain we can have a woman president who is just as capable as I when dealing with big issues and big geopolitics. More importantly, she and I plan to repair the border, even with our last bill which was backed by the Border Control reps with the only person opposing it being D Trump without being in Office, blocking a Border bill 6 months ago via his control over his puppets.

Just like he plans to control all of us, you, me, everybody with a fascist policy not unlike that of pre war time German Nazi party. He needs to point out US men do not stand for a man his of 78yo showing rapid brain decline, a Racist, a convictd rapist, 34felones, Publc Fraud of $0.5B dollars from normal families like you and I, a man who has made it so he and he alone would be above the law.

Providing the hush money case sticks, which beside corruption by all accounts it should, the Sentencing in mid September will be a perfect timing for a pick me up. No way they will stick him in Jail even though they should, and home detention will stop him from talking about electric sharks, so what do you Sentence him with given any other person would spend years in prison for it?

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#3265199 27-Jul-2024 18:13

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Google searches for "vance dolphin" has infuriated Trump, because it's upstaged "trump assassination"

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freitasm: This is what Trump wants: "The former president urged attendees at the faith-themed event to vote — “Vote early. Vote absentee. Vote on Election Day. I don’t care how, but you have to get out and vote,” he said — and promised that in four years, “we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote.”"

No more voting sounds like a dictatorship to me.

Did he say that literally to them? Whilst its terrifying, it should be ammo for the Dems.

He will be swarn in to protect the constitution but this would clearly plan to abandon it. Didnt they run through this scenario in the SCOTUS, ie a candidate who puts the Constituon in danger, the President is allowed to use lethal force? (not saying he should, but if the Constitution is in peril, that Candidate should be removed from the Ballot. Who cares how unpopular. They talk a big game but this is a movement to overturn the rule of law. Which has already started with recently SCOTUS ruling, but Joe is wanting to over turn that back to know President having immunity.

The main reason Put has opposition listed is to prove his utter approval, normalising that they know he know that they know and there aint a damn thing they can do about it..

kingdragonfly: Google searches for "vance dolphin" has infuriated Trump, because it's upstaged "trump assassination"

Im not sure I want to search that, what is it?

This sounds like VIOLENT RHETORIC from JD Vance "foreword" in the Proj2025 lead Roberts new Book,

“We are now all realizing that it’s time to circle the wagons and load the muskets. In the fights that lay ahead, these ideas are an essential weapon.”

add up all the Violent Rhetoric from not just the Repub Party but Trump specifically, and some how he has the gile to claim it was due to the Democrat violent Rhetoric that he got a "supposed" tag in the ear (suspcisiouslly from a registered Rebub voter)

Clearly Vance thougt prior this is appropriate language.

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#3265255 27-Jul-2024 19:02

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TeaLeaf:

Clearly Vance thougt prior this is appropriate language.

You should see what he used to say in his blogs (many years ago): https://www.thebulwark.com/p/inside-jd-vances-blogger-days

What would that Vance see in the GOP of today? What would the man who derided “a conservatism that is defined by what it opposes” make of a movement that values policy based largely on how badly it owns the libs? Would he deem the GOP of 2024 less “a factory of anger and contradiction” than the GOP of 2012?

And what would he make of the party’s young new heir apparent—the man who clawed his way to second chair by positioning himself as chief prophet of the “substitute spiritual movement” that is the cult of Trump? Would JD Vance the blogger be happy with himself?

Plus a lot of Republicans don't like James a lot anyway - even though I acknowledge that he did win an election (probably mostly because of Trump and Thiele's backing):

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-are-already-souring-on-jd-vance/ar-BB1qHJsm?cvid=63b5bf2f9c7c4789967392ce58f4011d&ei=15

As to whether the Electoral Commission(?) would take any action against Trump for using a racial slur, my take on it is if the Access Hollywood tapes didn't sink him, this will make no difference either. He is totally un-faultable and perfect to his base, he can say anything he likes, and they just lap it up. It's a ridiculous cult, based around a man who couldn't care less about them, unless he's plying for their vote. Past that, they mean precisely 0 to the orange buffoon.

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#3265269 27-Jul-2024 19:31

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TeaLeaf:

He will be swarn in to protect the constitution but this would clearly plan to abandon it. Didnt they run through this scenario in the SCOTUS, ie a candidate who puts the Constituon in danger, the President is allowed to use lethal force? (not saying he should, but if the Constitution is in peril, that Candidate should be removed from the Ballot. Who cares how unpopular. They talk a big game but this is a movement to overturn the rule of law. Which has already started with recently SCOTUS ruling, but Joe is wanting to over turn that back to know President having immunity.

The main reason Put has opposition listed is to prove his utter approval, normalising that they know he know that they know and there aint a damn thing they can do about it..
add up all the Violent Rhetoric from not just the Repub Party but Trump specifically, and some how he has the gile to claim it was due to the Democrat violent Rhetoric that he got a "supposed" tag in the ear (suspcisiouslly from a registered Rebub voter)

Clearly Vance thougt prior this is appropriate language.

Jeez man, learn to use a spell checker. Also, foaming at the mouth isn't helping your argument. We all despise Trump here, but reasoned argument is more effective than adopting republican tactics like demanding removal of a candidate from the ballot, which really is overturning the rule of law.

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quickymart:

As to whether the Electoral Commission(?) would take any action against Trump for using a racial slur, my take on it is if the Access Hollywood tapes didn't sink him, this will make no difference either.

Yes I agree it seems he can do anything and get away with it.

BUT

I think we have an actual Prosecutor going up against him who will Polarise his character as the majority of his policy. Some will always ignore everything about him, but I feel winds are changing plus those disillusioned by Biden are returning.

Kamala was ~8 points behind Trump the day she entered, she has effectively got the race back to even, but this is just today, some say its too early to measure as it could keep going up. ie the poll in Maine and New Hampshire, which were tied a week ago, within 4 days she is up about +8 in both of those.

and this is all when Trump should be gaining more, post supposedly shot in the ear, then the craze from the RNC. Many not enthused by JD.

Rikkitic:

Jeez man, learn to use a spell checker. Also, foaming at the mouth isn't helping your argument. We all despise Trump here, but reasoned argument is more effective than adopting republican tactics like demanding removal of a candidate from the ballot, which really is overturning the rule of law.

apologies, I do have it on, not sure how I miss them, but struggling with health related brain fog, Im the opposite of foaming/upset. I'm more excited. :-)

I think that's my point, Thomas and Elito (you could throw all 6 in) really changed the "Rule of law" to no man being above the rule of law, but now Biden is, so by law he is within his rights; But it wasn't a serious tactic, more, this is the sort of thing I could expect from a future Trump 3rd term. Joe wouldn't do it. although I would like to know what he's working on, Id like to see the constitute protected even further, especially in regard to it not being able to be overturned and any such attempt to be liable for Treason or similar.

Im hoping hes working on protecting the guardrails etc.

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