Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3280361 9-Sep-2024 14:47

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And an amendment needs to be ratified by a majority of states.

Good luck with that.

Perfectly happy for him to pour all his what-passes-for attention into that rather than anything else.

Someone probably said the same thing about Hitler.

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Associated Press: Trump assails women who accused him of misconduct, days before his debate with Harris
Shortly after appearing in court for an appeal of a decision that found him liable for sexual abuse, Donald Trump stepped in front of television cameras Friday and brought up a string of past allegations of other acts of sexual misconduct, potentially reminding voters of incidents that were little-known or forgotten.

The former president has made hitting back at opponents and accusers a centerpiece of his political identity, but his performance at his namesake Manhattan office tower was startling even by Trump’s combative standards.

At times, he seemed to relish using graphic language and characterizations of the case brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, which could expose the former president to further legal challenges from Carroll’s attorneys. His remarks were especially striking given that they came four days before Trump will debate Vice President Kamala Harris, with early voting about to begin in some parts of the country and Election Day just two months away.
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After leaving court, Trump returned to his midtown high rise to rail against both his civil and criminal cases in New York. During a press conference at Trump Tower, the former president repeated his claim that he had “never met” Carroll and sought to discredit two of the witnesses in her case who also claimed he sexually assaulted them.

“Frankly, I know you’re going to say it’s a terrible thing to say, but it couldn’t have happened, it didn’t happen, and she wouldn’t have been the chosen one,” Trump said of Leeds, seeming to imply that he would not have been attracted to her, after reiterating how famous he was at the time.

“She would not have been the chosen one,” he repeated.

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#3280603 10-Sep-2024 09:35

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The NY Times - With Trump Media Stock Cratering, Donald Trump Has a Decision to Make (unlocked free link)

09 Sep 2024

In 10 days, the former president will be free to sell his shares in Trump Media & Technology Group - the publicly traded parent company of Truth Social, his social network and main online megaphone. A provision that barred him from selling any of his 115 million shares will expire on Sept. 19.

His stake is worth $2 billion, an enticing bounty given that Mr. Trump invested only a few million dollars into Trump Media, which was formed just weeks after he left the White House in early 2021.

But his shares are worth a lot less than they were in March, when Trump Media made its Wall Street debut.*

A sale by Mr. Trump would have big implications, both financial and political.

It almost certainly would tank the price of Trump Media’s volatile stock, decreasing the value of whatever remains of Mr. Trump’s stake.

An ensuing slump in the share price might also leave the company’s more than 600,000 shareholders - many of them supporters of the former president and users of the platform - feeling sabotaged and alienated. ...

* The share price is down more than 70 percent from its peak.

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#3280628 10-Sep-2024 10:33

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Sensational.

Definitely goes to show that "a fool and his money are soon parted".

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An ensuing slump in the share price might also leave the company’s more than 600,000 shareholders - many of them supporters of the former president and users of the platform - feeling sabotaged and alienated. ...

Seems unlikely. I reckon there are probably three types of investor - those who bought as a joke, those who bought cynically knowing the worshipers would plump up the price, and the true believers.

The joke buyers are laughing no matter what. The cynical buyers have already cashed out with their profit. The true believers are true believers and will find some way to rationalise their losses because it served to help their god-emperor.

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#3280639 10-Sep-2024 11:21

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In case people were wondering what "pew pew sneakers" were. Everyone around Trump really has no shame or class.

The Guardian: Donald Trump offers supporters $299 assassination attempt-themed sneakers
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Despite such traumatic events, 45Footwear, a company which has sold $399 golden Trump-branded sneakers, swiftly offered a new range of high-tops.

Rather more pricey than unofficial assassination merch churned out in China, the $299 white shoes were emblazoned with the US flag, an image of Trump with fist raised and face bloodied and the words “Fight Fight Fight” – his instant reaction to being shot.

Fittingly, Trump also told agents protecting him: “Let me get my shoes.” One was left on the stage.
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Sideface: An ensuing slump in the share price might also leave the company’s more than 600,000 shareholders - many of them supporters of the former president and users of the platform - feeling sabotaged and alienated. ...

He'll cash out as soon as he can, and who cares about what happens to the suckers. That's what he's done pretty much every single time he's run one of these cons, which is why he's been blacklisted by almost every major bank in the US (they ended up carrying the can), and in more recent years has relied on "investors" like MBS and money launderers. So the MO is buy or set up something, vastly inflate the numbers, e.g. number of apartments sold in Trump Tower XYZ, either by manipulating the figures or just outright lying, collect your fees up-front (always the case, it's always cash up front), and then leave things to collapse behind you.

Which is also why he's always looking for the next grift, his wealth is mostly other people's money (when it's not just made-up numbers), so he's in constant need of more funding.

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#3280665 10-Sep-2024 14:05

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Which is also why he's always looking for the next grift, his wealth is mostly other people's money (when it's not just made-up numbers), so he's in constant need of more funding.

Sounds more exhausting than a real job, to be honest.

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Not when you're raking in tens to hundreds of millions with it.

It also means he gets to live the billionaire lifestyle without really being one.

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#3280704 10-Sep-2024 16:21

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In every sense, Trump is a beacon of excellence in the art of oration, a true testament to the enduring power of his spoken word.

Trump's "child care is child care" speech will be remember by historian hundreds of years from now. 😛

Reporter:

"If you win in November can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make child care affordable and if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance?"

Trump:

"Well, I would do that, and we're sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It's a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. Couldn't, you know, there's something, you have to have it – in this country you have to have it.

But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they're not used to — but they'll get used to it very quickly – and it's not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Uh, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're talking about, including child care, that it's going to take care.

We're gonna have - I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about.

We're gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care, uh, is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. We're going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other people, but we're going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It's about Make America Great Again, we have to do it because right now we're a failing nation, so we'll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you."

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#3280718 10-Sep-2024 16:35

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This is how Fox News spinned that

"Trump suggests tariffs would lower US childcare costs in major economic speech"

Former President Donald Trump proposed raising tariffs on foreign imports as a key solution to several U.S. economic challenges, including the rising cost of child care. Speaking to business leaders at the Economic Club of New York on Thursday, Trump outlined his vision for what he called a "national economic renaissance," suggesting tariffs would generate trillions of dollars in revenue to address various issues.

Trump responded to questions about his plans to make child care more affordable by pointing to tariffs. He claimed that while child care costs are often highlighted as significant, the revenue generated from higher tariffs would more than cover such expenses.

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#3280719 10-Sep-2024 16:38

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They must have a babel fish to translate that load of gibberish.

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kingdragonfly: Trump responded to questions about his plans to make child care more affordable by pointing to tariffs. He claimed that while child care costs are often highlighted as significant, the revenue generated from higher tariffs would more than cover such expenses.

As well as making most things the parents would need to buy for the children a lot more expensive. Truly a stable genius.

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#3280740 10-Sep-2024 18:14

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kingdragonfly: Trump responded to questions about his plans to make child care more affordable by pointing to tariffs. He claimed that while child care costs are often highlighted as significant, the revenue generated from higher tariffs would more than cover such expenses.

As well as making most things the parents would need to buy for the children a lot more expensive. Truly a stable genius.

Did you miss the bit where he said the other countries would be paying tarrif? /s

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