Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3327797 5-Jan-2025 13:07

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Is Trump the most corrupt (and most corruptible) President in American history? 😟

Cartoon depicting the owner of The Washington Post, Jeff Bezos,
and other billionaires genuflecting toward a statue of Trump.

This (unpublished) cartoon cost the Post cartoonist her job.

Is Trump the most corrupt (and most corruptible) President in American history?

I'm no history wonk but I'd shout YES! to that one. What a balsy cartoonist! I hope she keeps cartooning.

BTW: I recognize Bezos and Michael Mouse, but who are the others?

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#3327807 5-Jan-2025 13:15

According to the Guardian, the cartoonist (Anne Telnaes) resigned because the Post wouldn't publish.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3327818 5-Jan-2025 13:34

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3327820 5-Jan-2025 13:38

geekIT: ... I recognize Bezos and Michael Mouse, but who are the others?

Washington Post - Cartoonist Quits After Jeff Bezos Cartoon Is Killed 03 Jan 2025 (unlocked link)

"In addition to Mr. Bezos, the founder of Amazon, the cartoon depicted Meta’s founder, Mark Zuckerberg; Sam Altman, OpenAI’s chief executive; Patrick Soon-Shiong, the owner of The Los Angeles Times; and Mickey Mouse, the corporate mascot of the Walt Disney Company."

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#3327867 5-Jan-2025 17:20

Jeff Bezos is into rockets and as Musk knows only to well Governments fund Rockets.
Subsidies, technology transfers or joint development from NASA, DARPA (from its Government funding ),
R&D Subsidies, Military contracts, buying various services etc.

So now he has a problem that Musk is in an ideal position to dry up his funding.

Jeff being practical bends the knee, kisses the ring. I always loved you.

Things have possibly got tougher for RocketLab.
They have to have enough profile to generate market support, Government contracts, and technology development support.
Not so much Musk sees them as a threat.

Eye of Sauron and all that.

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#3327869 5-Jan-2025 17:26

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#3327870 5-Jan-2025 17:30

Sideface: Is Trump the most corrupt (and most corruptible) President in American history?

That dubious honor typically goes to Warren Harding. Trump, alongside Reagan (I can't remember which one is tops) has had the most indictments, prosecutions, convictions, and forced resignations for fraud, bribery, influence peddling, and so on among his staff, but again that's staff, not the person directly. Reagan seemed oblivious to it all and was never involved. Trump is a grifter but that doesn't make him corrupt, he's just very easily manipulated by anyone who knows how. Based on his business history I don't think he'd be smart enough to be effectively corrupt.

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#3327882 5-Jan-2025 18:04

neb: ... Based on [Trump's] business history I don't think he'd be smart enough to be effectively corrupt.

You don't have to be smart - you can be an incompetent failed grifter, or a smart successful grifter, but you're still corrupt. ☹

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#3327886 5-Jan-2025 18:21

Tim Cook goes , don't forget me !

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#3327892 5-Jan-2025 18:41

quickymart:

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OMG. It's worse than I thought.

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#3327902 5-Jan-2025 19:20

ezbee:
Tim Cook goes , don't forget me !

in a 2019 meeting Trump obviously forgot Tim's last name and called him Tim Apple.

Tim Cook , being an ass-kisser, briefly changed his Twitter display name to "Tim" with the Apple logo.

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#3327982 5-Jan-2025 22:57

The US flag will fly at half-mast during Trump's potentially US$200 million presidential inauguration ceremony:

Time: The act is in accordance with a proclamation issued by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1954, which states that when a President or former President dies, 30 days is the appropriate amount of time to fly the flag at half-staff at federal government buildings and their grounds, as well as at U.S. embassies and other facilities abroad, including military installations and vessels.

Ex-president Carter died recently 100 years old. The last time the US flag flew at half-staff during a presidential inauguration was for the death of Truman just prior to Nixon's second inauguration.

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#3327985 5-Jan-2025 23:03

I wonder if this will be a case where he whines and then lies (or at least, gets his press secretary to) re the crowd size again, a la 2017?

The ultimate insult would be if even less people turned up compared to last time 👍

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#3328257 6-Jan-2025 13:10

quickymart:

I wonder if this will be a case where he whines and then lies (or at least, gets his press secretary to) re the crowd size again, a la 2017?

The ultimate insult would be if even less people turned up compared to last time 👍

I'd love to think that'll happen, but it seems that around half of US citizens are idiots, so I'm expecting a record turnout.

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#3328315 6-Jan-2025 14:25

Washington Post - Opinion - Hush-money judge on Trump: ‘Premeditated and continuous deception’

05 Jan 2025

In the matter of Donald J. Trump, the criminal justice system failed egregiously to hold the once and future president accountable. It’s almost inconceivable that Trump will spend a single day behind bars.

To the contrary, New York State Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan suggested that, given Trump’s imminent return to the White House, he plans enter a no-strings-attached sentence of “unconditional discharge.”

Still, to read Merchan’s decision last week upholding Trump’s felony conviction is to see welcome glimmers of accountability for Trump’s underlying conduct and his behavior as the prosecution proceeded.

The consequences may be mostly symbolic and rhetorical, but symbolism and rhetoric matter.

Most important is that the jury verdict stands; Trump will pursue his appeal, but, 10 days after the scheduled sentencing, he will be the first president to enter the White House as a felon. ...

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