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#3167817 4-Dec-2023 09:32

sir1963:

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/smokefree-laws-pm-christopher-luxon-speaks-to-newstalk-zbs-mike-hosking-after-he-got-claim-about-northland-tobacco-stores-wrong/JV4RFQ5QJ5E3BITAR72F3KMP2M/

He may not have been intentionally trying to mislead, but the fact that both him and Bishop did it isn't a good look. Hopefully it was just a one-off?

Let me guess, he did his own research and asked Winston ?

I've done my own research and found Chris Bishop was a tobacco lobbyist.

Does it count?

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#3167819 4-Dec-2023 09:36

Someone linked to an old Chris Bishop interview from 2012-ish (while he was still at Philip Morris) on YouTube last week on Mastodon. I'll see if I can find it again.

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#3168029 4-Dec-2023 15:41

freitasm:

I've done my own research and found Chris Bishop was a tobacco lobbyist.

Does it count?

Someone has made a direct connection to his previous work as well:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/12/smokefree-laws-labour-mp-rachel-boyack-unable-to-back-up-claim-chris-bishop-s-past-as-tobacco-lobbyist-influenced-new-smoking-policy.html

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#3168122 4-Dec-2023 20:15

Oh dear, barely a week into the new Government and already the leaks are beginning:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/12/fair-pay-agreements-leaked-cabinet-paper-reveals-workplace-relations-minister-brooke-van-velden-at-odds-with-official-advice.html

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#3168208 5-Dec-2023 06:47

National works for rich company owners. Poor people be damned seems to be their motto.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/government-shaken-by-leak-of-cabinet-paper-criticising-urgent-repeal-of-law-to-lift-wages-conditions-of-low-paid-workers/IKBGVHVLGRB4HOMIL53UN2QCL4/

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#3168234 5-Dec-2023 08:33

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/301020244/live-antigovernment-protesters-arrive-at-parliament

Protests against the Government, getting plenty of support from pedestrians and motorists

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#3168236 5-Dec-2023 08:36

tdgeek:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/301020244/live-antigovernment-protesters-arrive-at-parliament

Protests against the Government, getting plenty of support from pedestrians and motorists

Its with great amusement that I read that Shane Jones said the protests are "Anti-democratic" whist ignoring his leaders foray into the gangster squad that was the anti-vaxer protesters on parliament grounds.

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#3168237 5-Dec-2023 08:37

tdgeek:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/301020244/live-antigovernment-protesters-arrive-at-parliament

Protests against the Government, getting plenty of support from pedestrians and motorists

Not even a month in government and already being protested. Great leadership there.

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#3168238 5-Dec-2023 08:40

sir1963:

tdgeek:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/301020244/live-antigovernment-protesters-arrive-at-parliament

Protests against the Government, getting plenty of support from pedestrians and motorists

Its with great amusement that I read that Shane Jones said the protests are "Anti-democratic" whist ignoring his leaders foray into the gangster squad that was the anti-vaxer protesters on parliament grounds.

It's only anti-democratic when it's against them. If it's against the other party or a minority, it's "Freedom of speech".

Like in the USA. If it's a Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Trump says it's a democratic demonstration, with "good people on both sides".

If it's a Black Lives Matter rally, then it's a "riot".

Or, in another example, like in the USA they wear those "Fuck your feelings" t-shirts, but when people point out their flaws, the idiots shout "I'm being cancelled".

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#3168244 5-Dec-2023 08:59

Waitangi Day should be fun this year. I generally tend to think they are unnecessarily disrespectful of the PM of the day. The last few governments including National have been making good faith efforts to improve the situation. Not always with the best results, but at least they have tried. So the treatment they sometimes get especially from the Harawiras is in my opinion often unjustified.

But this year ... I don't think they'll be very welcome, and I won't be able to find it in me to disapprove.

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#3168246 5-Dec-2023 09:22

SaltyNZ:

Waitangi Day should be fun this year. I generally tend to think they are unnecessarily disrespectful of the PM of the day. The last few governments including National have been making good faith efforts to improve the situation. Not always with the best results, but at least they have tried. So the treatment they sometimes get especially from the Harawiras is in my opinion often unjustified.

But this year ... I don't think they'll be very welcome, and I won't be able to find it in me to disapprove.

Perhaps Hipkins will make a point of difference and attend, possibly be welcomed?

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#3168247 5-Dec-2023 09:35

I think Luxon is discovering more and more that you ought to be careful what you wish for!

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#3168248 5-Dec-2023 09:37

Rikkitic:

I think Luxon is discovering more and more that you ought to be careful what you wish for!

Unlike running an airline, he can not do anything about voters who criticise him publicly.

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#3168250 5-Dec-2023 09:42

I got caught out on the way in to work this morning. Quite happy to sit there as it makes no difference to me but I imagine it would have been fairly stressful for anyone who would be in trouble for a late start or docked hours. Just a slow crawl, no real drama to speak of.

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#3168252 5-Dec-2023 09:51

Shane Jones comes across as an angry old man shouting at kids on the street playing ball and also shout at the damn clouds. He should be long time retired. Its also disturbing that a politician in a democratic country has no idea what democracy is.

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