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  #3405320 18-Aug-2025 13:12
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That is a great move by Europe. As much as I heartily detest Trump, if a deal of some kind can be struck that guarantees Ukrainian security and brings the fighting to a stop, I would gladly vote for him to receive the Nobel Peace Prize regardless of anything he actually does. Same with Israel. If a return to sanity can somehow be achieved, I don't care how they spin it or massage Trump's ego or give credit where not due. A shiny bauble for Trump is a small price to pay if it stops the killing. Let him wear it around his neck and sit next to Obama and shout on Truth Social that his prize is bigger than the others. It doesn't matter. He will be gone soon enough.

 

 

 

 




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  #3405333 18-Aug-2025 13:24
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Rikkitic:

 

That is a great move by Europe. As much as I heartily detest Trump, if a deal of some kind can be struck that guarantees Ukrainian security and brings the fighting to a stop, I would gladly vote for him to receive the Nobel Peace Prize regardless of anything he actually does. Same with Israel. If a return to sanity can somehow be achieved, I don't care how they spin it or massage Trump's ego or give credit where not due. A shiny bauble for Trump is a small price to pay if it stops the killing. Let him wear it around his neck and sit next to Obama and shout on Truth Social that his prize is bigger than the others. It doesn't matter. He will be gone soon enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no deal guaranteeing Ukrainian security that involves Trump's America. He will give Putin whatever he demands. And even Biden's America was not so much 'guaranteeing Ukrainian security' as 'giving them just enough aid to only bleed out slowly'.




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  #3405337 18-Aug-2025 13:43
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Rikkitic:

 

That is a great move by Europe. As much as I heartily detest Trump, if a deal of some kind can be struck that guarantees Ukrainian security and brings the fighting to a stop, I would gladly vote for him to receive the Nobel Peace Prize regardless of anything he actually does. Same with Israel. If a return to sanity can somehow be achieved, I don't care how they spin it or massage Trump's ego or give credit where not due. A shiny bauble for Trump is a small price to pay if it stops the killing. Let him wear it around his neck and sit next to Obama and shout on Truth Social that his prize is bigger than the others. It doesn't matter. He will be gone soon enough.

 

 

 

 

 


I'd like to see peace too, but there's no place in my heart for being OK with the Orange Buffoon getting any kind of prize, ego stroke or praise. 
He's a war mongering, evil, psychopathic blaggard, who deserves nothing but hate, scorn, humiliation and a long, slow, painful death and ultimately for his legacy to be forever tarnished to the point where he's spoken about in the same way that the Austrian Painter is. 

In saying that, he does hold the most powerful office in the world, so he needs to be treated with some caution. He's like a toddler - he has no reason or maturity, but he has a temper and that cannot be underestimated. 

The European leaders know this and will obviously need to be cautious themselves, or they'll find themselves up against both the US and Russia in a new European war (whether military or economic). 

 

I'd love for the European leaders to walk in there and simply decree that they have had enough and are going into Ukraine to stop this, with his help or no, but it isn't going to happen. 




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  #3405363 18-Aug-2025 14:12
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Unexplainable: Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Kash Patel always looks like he's taken his first ever snort of cocaine.

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  #3405366 18-Aug-2025 14:19
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Handsomedan:
I'd like to see peace too, but there's no place in my heart for being OK with the Orange Buffoon getting any kind of prize, ego stroke or praise. 
He's a war mongering, evil, psychopathic blaggard, who deserves nothing but hate, scorn, humiliation and a long, slow, painful death and ultimately for his legacy to be forever tarnished to the point where he's spoken about in the same way that the Austrian Painter is. 

In saying that, he does hold the most powerful office in the world, so he needs to be treated with some caution. He's like a toddler - he has no reason or maturity, but he has a temper and that cannot be underestimated. 

The European leaders know this and will obviously need to be cautious themselves, or they'll find themselves up against both the US and Russia in a new European war (whether military or economic). 

 

I'd love for the European leaders to walk in there and simply decree that they have had enough and are going into Ukraine to stop this, with his help or no, but it isn't going to happen. 

 

 

I'm not up on geo-politics as much as I used to be, but how is Trump any more of a war monger than previous US presidents? He's a lot of shitty things to be sure, but I'm not sure that's one of them (in comparison to other US presidents at least).

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  #3405383 18-Aug-2025 14:47
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Also: the orange buffoon's press secretary can't keep covering up for his (obvious) decline forever - also takes some potshots at Biden's team for doing the same thing:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/karoline-leavitt-can-t-cover-up-the-truth-trump-s-cankles-and-hand-makeup-say-it-all/ar-AA1KGRWy?cvid=91ff547507bd4ad997b37c2ecd4d136d&ei=11

 

 

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  #3405426 18-Aug-2025 19:13
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This Republican zombie Jan Halper-Hayes claims to be hold a Ph.D. in Organizational Psychology, from 1976 by CPU. However, no one can find any legitimate institute called CPU. There are at least two unaccredited institutions / diploma mills called CPU.

She's also claimed to be a USAF veteran, a health research editor, and a consultant for companies, again without any independent proof.

She was a former adviser to Donald Trump. She once defended Trump's comment that Ukrainian President Zelensky as a "dictator," suggesting that Trump's words "can't be taken literally."

She also stated in January 6 Capitol riot, "Antifa people" were present among the rioters.

Here she's unwittingly defending a 82-year-old Australian stalker Barry William Hull. In November 2024, Hull pleaded guilty to stalking a teenage girl over several months, including repeatedly attending her workplace and addressing her with terms like "babe" and "baby girl."

As part of the criminal case, Facebook investigated threatening messages to the victim, and provided the authorities tracking information. There is no indication that Facebook was involved in initiating the investigation without prompting.

Again this case was in Australia, not in the UK, where the following interview happened.

[presenter] What's JD Vance talking about? He's got this bug bear, hasn't he? Got this chip on his shoulder about Britain having lost the right to free speech. What is he talking about?

[zombie] Morning. Well, good morning. It's funny that you think that he's taking a dig. Do you not think that when an 82year-old man is arrested for posting something on Facebook that is not a form of censorship?

[presenter] Well, it depends what he posts, doesn't it? Depends if it's legal.

[zombie] Well...

[presenter] what do you what did what that what did that 82-y old man post?

[zombie] Well, what what he let let's back up a minute here. If we are starting to scrutinize everything that someone says if we're arresting them ...

[presenter] because what is the you mentioned a specific case there. What is it this 82year-old was arrested for?

[zombie] Honestly, I can't remember. But what ...

[presenter] So you just you're telling me that it's outrageous that an 82y old man was ...

[zombie] well let's back up a moment here.

[presenter] No, no, no. Sorry. This is important because you just said this is this is an example of free speech under threat in the UK, but you can't tell me what he was arrested for.

[zombie] I don't remember the

[Presenter] So why you bring it up then?

[zombie] I brought it up as an example that if we are scrutinizing what an 82year-old man posts on Facebook.

[presenter] But you can't assess that without knowing what he said, can you?

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  #3405451 19-Aug-2025 06:35
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The NY Times - Trump Says He’ll ‘Lead a Movement’ to Eliminate Mail-In Ballots

 

18 Aug 2025

 


President Trump said on Monday that he would lead a movement to eliminate mail-in ballots and would sign an executive order to “help bring HONESTY to the 2026 Midterm Elections.”

 

Mr. Trump has long opposed mail-in voting and falsely claimed it was a source of fraud during the 2020 presidential election, which he lost to former President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

 

Mr. Trump has maintained his opposition even after Republicans in the 2024 election made significant gains in mail voting when the party encouraged its supporters to make use of the practice.

 

Writing on Truth Social on Monday, Mr. Trump said: “THE MAIL-IN BALLOT HOAX, USING VOTING MACHINES THAT ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER, MUST END, NOW!!!”

 

Despite Mr. Trump’s call to eliminate mail-in voting, he is unable to do it unilaterally. ...

 



 

Here is the full rant ...  

 

 

This man has psychiatric problems   😟




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  #3405463 19-Aug-2025 09:06
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This man has psychiatric problems   😟

 

 

 

 

Apropos of nothing, I got back the answer to my OIA request to David Seymour yesterday regarding his assertion that only dropkicks would have a problem with the electoral changes the government is pushing through. He and Trump seem to agree on quite a bit there. Anyway, it turns out that David Seymour was just - wait for it - making s*** up, and there is no evidence to suggest dropkicks are a problem one way or the other.

 

 

 

 

From: David Seymour (MIN)
David Seymour

August 18, 2025

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Simon

 


 

Thank you for your official information request received on 27 July 2025
for:


“I write to you to request all documents available regarding dropkicks and
their effects on elections in Aotearoa New Zealand. I request the formal
definition of dropkick and your evidence to suggest that dropkicks are
negatively impacting electoral processes. I request the evidence you used
to determine that making sure dropkicks must be registered to vote before
election day will positively influence both the speed and quality of
elections in Aotearoa New Zealand.”

 
Your request has been considered under the Official Information Act 1982
(the Act).


This office holds none of the information you have requested in Hon David
Seymour’s ministerial capacity.  We are therefore refusing your request
under section 18(e) of the OIA because the information you have requested
does not exist.

 

You have the right to seek an investigation and review by the Ombudsman of
this decision. Information about how to make a complaint is available at
[1]www.ombudsman.parliament.nz or freephone 0800 802 602.

 

 

Kind regards
 

Office of Hon David Seymour

Deputy Prime Minister

 

 




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  #3405530 19-Aug-2025 10:25
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The NY Times - Trump Says He’ll ‘Lead a Movement’ to Eliminate Mail-In Ballots

 

 

Ironic that, in fact, for a long time, the orange buffoon used mail-in voting himself: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/903886567/trump-while-attacking-mail-voting-casts-mail-ballot-again

 

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  #3405534 19-Aug-2025 10:57
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This meeting today, seems bizarre. Trump is hell bent on a deal, thats fine in itself, but he wants UKR to ceded territory, so he is essentially selling them out

 

When Zelensky says no, Trump will get angry

 

Perhaps UKR could seed a little, if USA and EU give 100% security protection  

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  #3405535 19-Aug-2025 10:58
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tdgeek:

 

This meeting today, seems bizarre. Trump is hell bent on a deal, thats fine in itself, but he wants UKR to ceded territory, so he is essentially selling them out

 

When Zelensky says no, Trump will get angry

 

Perhaps UKR could seed a little, if USA and EU give 100% security protection  

 

 

 

 

They have been there and done that when they gave up their nuclear weapons..... we see how well that worked out for Ukraine.

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  #3405541 19-Aug-2025 11:40
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sir1963:

 

tdgeek:

 

This meeting today, seems bizarre. Trump is hell bent on a deal, thats fine in itself, but he wants UKR to ceded territory, so he is essentially selling them out

 

When Zelensky says no, Trump will get angry

 

Perhaps UKR could seed a little, if USA and EU give 100% security protection  

 

 

 

 

They have been there and done that when they gave up their nuclear weapons..... we see how well that worked out for Ukraine.

 

 

Was there, USA and EU give 100% security protection?

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  #3405570 19-Aug-2025 12:58
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Was there, USA and EU give 100% security protection?

 

 

 

 

The Budapest Memorandum, unfortunately, was pretty weak. It only bound the signatories to respect the sovereignty of the states relinquishing their nuclear weapons to Russia, and to go to the Security Council should any violation occur. Of course Russia broke it as soon as they were ready, and given that Russia has a veto on the SC that part of the promise was about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

 

So no, in reality no actual security guarantees, which was a mistake on Ukraine's part.




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  #3405571 19-Aug-2025 13:11
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SaltyNZ:

 

tdgeek:

 

Was there, USA and EU give 100% security protection?

 

 

 

 

The Budapest Memorandum, unfortunately, was pretty weak. It only bound the signatories to respect the sovereignty of the states relinquishing their nuclear weapons to Russia, and to go to the Security Council should any violation occur. Of course Russia broke it as soon as they were ready, and given that Russia has a veto on the SC that part of the promise was about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

 

So no, in reality no actual security guarantees, which was a mistake on Ukraine's part.

 

 

I suspect the new security guarantees will need to be onsite and wearing uniforms. Literally Border Control

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