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  #3435102 16-Nov-2025 19:16
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All MAGA Wanted Was the Epstein Files. Now They're Ignoring Them: Wired

For years, MAGA influencers demanded the release of the Epstein files. Now that 20,000 documents have been released, many raising questions about Donald Trump, they're shrugging

MAGA could care less about the latest document dump on disgraced financier and convicted sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein.

On Wednesday, the House Oversight Committee released 20,000 documents from Epstein’s estate, a number of which directly reference president Donald Trump. The cache of documents contain messages from Epstein, where the sex offender says he knows “how dirty Donald is,” and that the president had spent hours in Epstein’s own home with one of his victims. In one message from Epstein to author Michael Wolff, Epstein writes: “Of course he knew about the girls.”


The White House has dismissed the revelations as nothing but a partisan attempt to smear Trump
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In February, the White House gave a dozen right-wing influencers including conservative commentator Liz Wheeler and Chaya Raichik, the woman who runs the notorious LibsofTikTok account, access to a number of Epstein-related documents.
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The administration later admitted many of the documents were already in the public domain.

But this week, following the drop of new documentation, the influencers have been silent.

MAGA influencers are either ignoring the new information or reframing it not as an indictment of Trump, but as part of a Democratic Party effort the president himself called “a hoax.”
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  #3435111 16-Nov-2025 22:06
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Trump speaks about possible U.S military action in Venezuela:

“I sort of have made up my mind — yeah. I mean, I can’t tell you what it would be, but I sort of have,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One when asked directly about those meetings and whether he had made a decision"

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/15/politics/venezuela-trump-military-what-we-know

Back to the 1980s. Bad idea.

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  #3435112 16-Nov-2025 22:24
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kingdragonfly: 

MAGA could care less about the latest document dump on disgraced financier and convicted sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein.


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Is that MAGA could care less, in other words they do care; or is it MAGA coudn't care less, in other words they don't care?





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#3435113 16-Nov-2025 23:08
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Tariffs officially off NZ beef and kiwifruit as signalled by USA earlier this week. I feel like it's the first ever good news posted in this thread:

"particularly for kiwifruit worth about $250 million a year and meat or beef exports about $2 billion a year for New Zealand, this is welcome news and we would hope there could be more over time."

https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/11/16/us-drops-tariffs-on-2-billion-of-nz-exports-mcclay/

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  #3435132 17-Nov-2025 08:03
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https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-administration-epstein-files-11-16-25

 

 “The most hurtful thing (Trump) said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor, and that is, that is so extremely wrong, and those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger,” Greene told anchor Dana Bash on “State of the Union.”

 

Bash pushed back: “We have seen these kinds of attacks or criticism from the president at other people — it’s not new — and with respect, I haven’t heard you speak out about it until it was directed at you.” 

 

I have seen more than one commentator call her an opportunist. I'm inclined to agree - now she's not on the side of the orange buffoon anymore, she's all-out to get with anyone who would want her on their side.


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  #3435137 17-Nov-2025 08:43
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Rikkitic:

 

Nixon was many times brighter than Trump. Bin Salman is many times brighter than Trump. A female praying mantis is many times brighter than trump. Dog shit on the pavement is brighter than Trump. Trump is just lucky and he has the right enablers. He is easy to mold and that makes him a useful idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The significant issue with trying to mold him is that he holds his shape about as well as warm honey. If you can't get him to complete your task within his 13-second memory window, someone else will come along and mold him into something else.





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  #3435162 17-Nov-2025 10:51
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Technofreak:

kingdragonfly: 

MAGA could care less about the latest document dump on disgraced financier and convicted sexual abuser Jeffrey Epstein.


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Is that MAGA could care less, in other words they do care; or is it MAGA coudn't care less, in other words they don't care?



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  #3435176 17-Nov-2025 11:46
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gzt: Tariffs officially off NZ beef and kiwifruit as signalled by USA earlier this week. I feel like it's the first ever good news posted in this thread:


Otto von Bismarck, around 1885:
“Laws are like sausages: it’s better not to see them being made.”

Trump is not doing us any favors; luckily his cerebral cortex is dedicated to people who have slighted him

We're notably absent from his long term memory, like his former wives, friends and massage nymphs party buddies.

Trump's getting heat around Thanksgiving food prices, and he wants the least effort solution. We are just in the right place at the right time.

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  #3435206 17-Nov-2025 13:00
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In the main plot of the new season of “South Park” on Comedy Central, President Trump is expecting a baby with Satan.

 

The NY Times - ‘South Park’ Takes On Trump and Wins Bigly

 

08 Nov 2025

 


When they started sketching new episodes of the brash animated comedy “South Park” this summer, the show’s two creators, Matt Stone and Trey Parker, found themselves thinking a lot about politics and MAGA. ...

 

It’s not that we got all political,” Mr. Parker said in an interview. “It’s that politics became pop culture.”

 

The result has been a season full of withering attacks against President Trump and his team of advisers. ...

Ratings for the Comedy Central show have surged. Viewership over the past four months is more than double 2023 ...

 

 

 





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  #3435245 17-Nov-2025 14:07
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Trump does have an on again off again, on again track record.
I take them off so I can threaten to put them on.

 

How odd, ours is mainly lean beef to mix with US beef for burger patties in the article.
USA beef too fat ? 
https://www.ruralnewsgroup.co.nz/rural-news/rural-general-news/us-removes-reciprocal-tariffs-on-new-zealand-beef
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Acland added “New Zealand is a complementary trading partner, being an important source of lean beef that is mixed with US domestic grain-fed beef to produce burger patties.
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Was it a trade for an FBI office and a junket for Kash Patel ? 
We did make some defense purchases, but Aussie has been buying billions more and got wacked.

 

Is Luxon planning to visit taking a large solid gold kiwi for his shelf.
Or Trump may come to collect it on a large Nuclear Powered Aircraft Carrier.


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  #3435256 17-Nov-2025 14:51
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WORST. DEFLECTION. EVER.

 


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  #3435349 17-Nov-2025 16:47
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Likewise Trump's father was never arrested at a KKK demonstration in May 1927. It must have been someone else with exactly the same name and exactly the same address:

Wikipedia: In May 1927, over 1,000 robed members of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) and 400 non-robed KKK supporters infiltrated a Memorial Day parade in Queens, prompting stern police intervention. Eight men were arrested, including the 21-year old Trump, whose charge of "refusing to disperse from a parade when ordered to do so" was dismissed. Another man, arrested on the same charge, was released on the basis of having been a bystander (whose foot was injured by a police car). Some newspaper articles on the incident list Trump's address (in Jamaica, Queens), which he is recorded as living at on various documents from 1928 to 1940. Despite this arrest, there is no incontrovertible evidence that Trump was a supporter of the KKK

other than that and his son having a thing for meeting Nazis and saying nice things about Hitler

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  #3435355 17-Nov-2025 17:22
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Trigger warning. Old men engaging in sex acts with each other:

Stuff: In that email, Epstein was told by his [brother Mark Epstein] to ask Steve Bannon, Trump's former chief strategist, whether [Russian President Vladimir] Putin has "the photos of Trump blowing Bubba".

"In response to queries from various outlets, Mark denied that the email in question referred to Clinton, though he declined to otherwise identify "Bubba", the Telegraph reported". Good lordy lord.

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  #3435357 17-Nov-2025 17:33
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Trump does a 180 now urges Republican members of Congress to vote to release the "Epstein files" saying he has nothing to hide:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/16/politics/epstein-files-petition-growing-gop-support

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  #3435362 17-Nov-2025 18:36
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What took him so long? All this fighting the release was for...? 🤷‍♂️🙄

 

Maybe the constant comments about him "protecting paedophiles" became a bit much to handle. This Epstein stuff is seriously hurting his polling, too.


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