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  #3455689 24-Jan-2026 22:28
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Speaking of Mark Carney, I rhetorically ask "What is a continuity multilateralist?"

A continuity multilateralist believes the post-WWII international system is fundamentally sound.

They believe organizations like IMF, World Bank, WTO, NATO, UN frameworks needs reform, not demolition.

Problems are best solved through rules, institutions, coordination between countries.

They desperately desire stability, predictability, and trust matter, and dislike short-term leverage

They value trade agreements, independent central banks, international norms, incremental change,

They dislike intensely tariff shocks, unilateralism, “deal-by-deal” diplomacy, and weaponization of uncertainty

Carney fits this perfectly.

As any extreme position inevitably leads to the right and left taking the same positions, the extreme left tends to believe the system is not malfunctioning, but it is functioning exactly as designed.

So anyone committed to stability like Mark Carney becomes suspect. Predictability protects capital, not labour.

And crises, such as ones Trump creates, are often the only moments where power often empowers elites, authoritarians, or reactionaries. In other words actors who can navigate or exploit chaos.

Stability-oriented figures are cast as enemies. On the left this is ironic since it's rare that a crises benefits the working poor.

When extremist on both sides hear Mark Carney they think he protecting existing hierarchies/ "the deep state."

Personally, I’m more sympathetic to Carney’s preference for lower chaos.

Only tangentially related, you might consider physicist Enrico Fermi's great filter idea.

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  #3455696 25-Jan-2026 07:17
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tdgeek: He bagged NATO nations for their low military spending based on GDP. He was correct, the other nations hung on the coat tails of the US

That is how Trump sees it.

The result is those nations have well and truly stepped up. While its not a fix that happens in 2 weeks it is happening, which will dilute the need of the US in coming years

That is mainly the result of the invasion of Ukraine and sporadic military harassment of Poland and other Europe NATO members including undersea cable disruptions. If you're saying Trump is responsible for all that, sure he's doing a great job ; )

 

He whined about their low GDP contributions to their own military, so they stepped up


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  #3455697 25-Jan-2026 07:24
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kingdragonfly: tdGeek, I'm not going to drag you over the coals about your post. I think it overstates Trump's causal role, coherence, and long-term payoff. And also smooths over how much of the burden fell on US consumers and allies rather than competitors.

This is the weakest argument While Trump has up ended International Order, he will improve International Order, in time, and not a long time. Mark Carney the closest and most important neighbour is direct proof of the improving of the new International order

Trump’s worldview is anti-multilateral: Trump is wildly suspicious of institutions. He loves using leverage and coercion of the US against others, even allies. He sees alliances as temporary, and always transactional. Lastly he embraces uncertainty as leverage.

Carney’s worldview is the opposite. He wants strong institutions to reduce risk. He believes rightly that predictability lowers costs. Contrary to Trump, he loves cooperation, and uses it break coercion. He also believes climate, finance, and trade are collective action problems that cannot be solved by any country alone.

If Carney is influential today, it’s not because Trump reshaped the order successfully. It’s because many countries are trying to stabilize and repair the systems Trump is destroying.

 

I think it overstates Trump's causal role, coherence, and long-term payoff. And also smooths over how much of the burden fell on US consumers and allies rather than competitors.

 

The point of my post is that Trump, in his egomaniacal self graduating and power hungry desires, has caused/forced other nations to diversify and ease away form the US, making them more economically independent and more militarily independent. Exactly the opposite of what Trump is working towards.

 

If Carney is influential today, it’s not because Trump reshaped the order successfully. It’s because many countries are trying to stabilize and repair the systems Trump is destroying

 

Exactly my point. I dont recall I posted Trump shaped the world successfully. Assuming you mean I stated that Trump is successful in that? It will likely end up a success and gain for all other countries, in time. I.e. it backfired


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  #3455698 25-Jan-2026 07:26
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Technofreak:

 

tdgeek:

 

Im going to give Trump some credit, but before I get bagged and criticised and banned, hear me out

 

He bagged NATO nations for their low military spending based on GDP. He was correct, the other nations hung on the coat tails of the US

 

The result is those nations have well and truly stepped up. While its not a fix that happens in 2 weeks it is happening, which will dilute the need of the US in coming years

 

 

I think this suited the US up until Trump came to power. By being the major contributor it gave them power and influence they might not otherwise have had within NATO and by extension Europe.

 

 

Quite possibly. 


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  #3455700 25-Jan-2026 07:39
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/minneapolis-ice-shooting-live-updates-doj-investigating-apparent/?id=129340693

 

Another day, another shooting in Minneapolis 😠 Again, (apparently) of a US citizen.

 

I feel the mayor's words are quite fitting here:

 

Mayor Jacob Frey again criticized Trump and his administration over the death of the Minneapolis man.

 

"I just saw a video of more than six masked agents pummeling one of our constituents and shooting him to death. How many more residents? How many more Americans need to die or get badly hurt for this operation to end?" he said during the news conference.

 

The mayor took a subtle jab at Vice President JD Vance who earlier this week came to the city and alleged that local and state officials were not doing enough to "turn down the temperature."

 

I'm done being told that our community members are responsible for the vitriol in our streets. I'm done being told that our local elected officials are solely responsible for turning down the temperature," Frey said.

 

The mayor contrasted the actions of the federal agents with those of his constituents noting that 15,000 people protested in the streets Friday and there were no reports of vandalism or violence.

 

Apparently the justification for shooting this person (according to DHS, who I'm quite sure are being economical with the truth) is "he was armed". So are lots of other people in the US. Why couldn't he have been tasered or detained or something, and then just taken into custody. I heard that six ICE thugs apparently beat this guy up - was that really necessary?

 

God I hope this means Republicans lose "bigly" (to quote the orange buffoon) in the midterms and bs like this is immediately investigated!


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  #3455701 25-Jan-2026 07:40
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Trumps abhorrent and factually incorrect statement that non US troops stayed away from the front line  an Afghanistan is causing widespread condemnation. Even lil ol NZ, whose stance is not to say what we are thinking, has spoken out. That level of publicly saying more about Trump will continue to trend. His reactions will just strengthen that. The US citizens, who vote Presidents in and out, will see the reputation of the US declining before their eyes. Thet are hugely patriotic, that will hurt.  I can see a well above average voter turnout in the midterms


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  #3455702 25-Jan-2026 07:58
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tdgeek:

 

Trumps abhorrent and factually incorrect statement that non US troops stayed away from the front line  an Afghanistan is causing widespread condemnation. Even lil ol NZ, whose stance is not to say what we are thinking, has spoken out. That level of publicly saying more about Trump will continue to trend. His reactions will just strengthen that. The US citizens, who vote Presidents in and out, will see the reputation of the US declining before their eyes. Thet are hugely patriotic, that will hurt.  I can see a well above average voter turnout in the midterms

 

 

Will they see it?

 

Their news buffet is serving quite a different menu to ours. A lot of networks are portraying his Davos visit in glowing terms. He is being cast as a hero.





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  #3455703 25-Jan-2026 08:03
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Technofreak:

 

Will they see it?

 

Their news buffet is serving quite a different menu to ours. A lot of networks are portraying his Davos visit in glowing terms. He is being cast as a hero.

 

 

Outside of Fox News as well?

 

And Trump and co they can tell people all they like that "the economy is doing well" but (and this is also played a part in tripping Biden up) unless they see it for themselves they won't believe it.


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  #3455714 25-Jan-2026 09:21
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quickymart: Another day, another shooting in Minneapolis 😠 Again, (apparently) of a US citizen.


The ICE agents better pray they have body cam footage of the man lying prone on the sidewalk, being kicked, grabbed a police firearm, because otherwise it looks like a bunch of undertrained thugs beating up a man sprawled on a sidewalk.

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  #3455721 25-Jan-2026 09:55
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Fox News and Podcaster response predictable as Trump has made this fast track to high office.

 

Trump constantly tweaks MAGA, ( far too many of rest of Americans ) constant need for distraction.
Oh look over there shiny, those people are stealing from us, cheating us, disrespecting us.

 

He creates his own fantasy there is a bigger crisis over there.
That he is doing 'something'.

 

Aside from him and his grabby 'friends' decades long close relationship with Epstein.
Oh and prices not coming down. Affordability is now a woke bad concept we shun.
More importantly they can steal everything and anything while everyone is looking over there.

 

Its like Elon's million people on Mars with everyone buying 5 Teslabots each. 
Aside from practical issues, who will be able to afford working minimum income Gigajobs.

 

Practical stuff like affordable healthcare, education, power, food, shelter, clean air, water, infrastructure.
Does not hit dopamine like existential emergency that they are coming to eat your pet.

 

Its not brilliant, but being a fantasist ass can beat excellence in America. 
Look at MTG, podcasters raking in millions. Just by being an ass.

 

So narcissistic village idiot with a large inheritance becomes King. 

 

Keeping the zone filled with emergencies, Americans junkies needing that next fix.

 

Unfortunately, its coming for us, as our election cycle will likely be dominated by crazy narcissistic fantasies.


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  #3455722 25-Jan-2026 09:57
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In Minnesota the term “open carry” is used in law simply to distinguish how a firearm is carried.

It means is the gun visible on your person in public.

I'm familiar with guns, and I'm struggling to understand Minnesota gun law. The same Permit to Carry that lets someone carry a handgun concealed.

I have to assume he had a gun in his belt, which is completely legal. It would have been legal, and frankly more common, if he had a concealed holster.

The man being beaten "gun whipped" on the ground before being shot in Minneapolis was reported by local police as having a valid carry permit, which means he could legally be carrying a handgun on his belt or in a concealed holster in public.

If you ever find yourself in America, and you're (frankly stupidly) carrying a gun and need to approach an officer. Stop moving, keep your hands clearly visible, often chest-level or higher. Do not suddenly raise them. Use a calm voice and say something like: “Officer, I want to let you know I am legally carrying a firearm. It’s in my [clothes location]. How would you like me to proceed?”

Live Updates: Federal Agents Kill a 37-Year-Old Minneapolis Man: New York Times
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Videos analyzed by The New York Times contradict the accounts of Homeland Security officials, who said that the man approached Border Patrol agents with a handgun and the intent to “massacre” them. Footage of the encounter shows the man was holding a phone in his hand, not a gun, when federal agents took him to the ground and shot him.

Federal officials posted images of a handgun they said the man was carrying. Chief Brian O’Hara of the Minneapolis police said the man who was killed, a 37-year-old American citizen with no criminal record, had a firearms permit. Open carry is legal in Minnesota.
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  #3455723 25-Jan-2026 10:06
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If this is accurate, the fact that he was shot dead is a really bad look for ICE and DHS...but then again, given the way they're being run and their leadership at the moment, I doubt they give a crap anymore 😠


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  #3455741 25-Jan-2026 11:23
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Creator is a former American Soldier, somewhat neutral in politics. He has a lot of videos, and this is the first with "Trump" in title.

Battleships are considered a bad idea today because they are built for a WWII problem set. Battleships were designed for shore bombardment, and have big surface fleet engagements. They were built in a world with limited air power and no precision missiles.

They are very vulnerable, because hey are huge, easy to track, even with cheapest satellites, too slow to hide.

Like like moniker "Trump" suggests, it's status signaling, compensatory grandiosity or narcissistic compensation. Enormously expensive for little return. Even hawks say it’s a waste.

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  #3455742 25-Jan-2026 11:26
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quickymart:

 

 

If this is accurate, the fact that he was shot dead is a really bad look for ICE and DHS...but then again, given the way they're being run and their leadership at the moment, I doubt they give a crap anymore 😠

 

 

IANAL. Basically they infringed his first and second ammendments, and state law, right there.

 

But they are Trump's browshirts. Nothing is going to happen in Nazi America.





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  #3455753 25-Jan-2026 11:52
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360929283/man-shot-and-killed-ice-agents-another-minneapolis-shooting

 

Comments like this from the orange buffoon really boil my blood 😠

 

Trump weighed in on social media by lashing out at Minnesota’s governor and the Minneapolis mayor with a post that seemed to only heighten the tensions rather than calm the chaos.

 

Trump shared images of the gun that immigration officials said was recovered and said “What is that all about? Where are the local Police? Why weren’t they allowed to protect ICE Officers?”

 

He said that Walz and Frey are “are inciting Insurrection, with their pompous, dangerous, and arrogant rhetoric.” He also blamed them for a series of fraud cases in in Minnesota involving government programs and defendants who have roots in Somalia.

 

Speak for yourself, Sir 🙄


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