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  #3455755 25-Jan-2026 11:54
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He is always projecting. Everything he accuses other people, is something he's doing.





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  #3455757 25-Jan-2026 11:57
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freitasm:

 

He is always projecting. Everything he accuses other people, is something he's doing.

 

 

Agreed, ditto for James as well, but Trump is the worst at it.


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  #3455767 25-Jan-2026 13:01
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The 37 year old American VA nurse Alex Pretti shot and killed by ICE:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/24/minneapolis-shooting-live

Reports of the shooting so far indicate Pretti was taken to the ground by ICE members and his legal open carry holstered firearm was removed by an ICE agent. At that point Pretti was shot by several ICE agents while on the ground. Looks like the "total immunity" message is working as intended.

ICE are normally dealing with undocumented immigrants who have almost zero civil rights and on that basis ICE are virtually unaccountable. On that basis ICE probably have almost zero need for civil rights training in comparison to American city police who have been sued and taken to court so many times that it's just financially prudent to provide civil rights training.

ICE are almost certainly going to be sued in civil court over the recent deaths of American citizens. Civil suits can take a while and Trump will be long gone by then. Avoiding any responsibility, as usual.

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  #3455860 25-Jan-2026 17:34
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quickymart:Stuff article Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin told AP in a text messages that person had a firearm with two magazines.


Trump of course throw in causal unneeded racism about Somalia into comment

"Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin told AP in a text messages that person had a firearm with two magazines."

Minnesota does not have a state law that limits the number of rounds in a magazine for firearms carried by civilians. It also doesn't matter if it "open" like on your belt or concealed carry.

Also there is no statutory restriction limiting magazine capacity like “10 round max” or similar in state statute.

At the federal level, there used to be a ban on magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban but it expired in 2004, under George W. Bush.

Minnesota did not adopt a permanent statewide magazine capacity ban in response, though it has been often tried.

There's been a lot of drafts on bills limiting ammo carried in Minnesota. It's almost a yearly ritual by Democrats.

The gun laws expirations remain in Republican thoughts and prayers.


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  #3455862 25-Jan-2026 17:42
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kingdragonfly:
quickymart: Another day, another shooting in Minneapolis 😠 Again, (apparently) of a US citizen.


The ICE agents better pray they have body cam footage of the man lying prone on the sidewalk, being kicked, grabbed a police firearm, because otherwise it looks like a bunch of undertrained thugs beating up a man sprawled on a sidewalk.

Youtube ID YYY45yevMcoQA

 

They weren't wearing body cams apparently. Cynical me say thats interesting


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  #3455863 25-Jan-2026 17:48
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kingdragonfly: In Minnesota the term “open carry” is used in law simply to distinguish how a firearm is carried.

It means is the gun visible on your person in public.

I'm familiar with guns, and I'm struggling to understand Minnesota gun law. The same Permit to Carry that lets someone carry a handgun concealed.

I have to assume he had a gun in his belt, which is completely legal. It would have been legal, and frankly more common, if he had a concealed holster.

The man being beaten "gun whipped" on the ground before being shot in Minneapolis was reported by local police as having a valid carry permit, which means he could legally be carrying a handgun on his belt or in a concealed holster in public.

If you ever find yourself in America, and you're (frankly stupidly) carrying a gun and need to approach an officer. Stop moving, keep your hands clearly visible, often chest-level or higher. Do not suddenly raise them. Use a calm voice and say something like: “Officer, I want to let you know I am legally carrying a firearm. It’s in my [clothes location]. How would you like me to proceed?”

Live Updates: Federal Agents Kill a 37-Year-Old Minneapolis Man: New York Times
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Videos analyzed by The New York Times contradict the accounts of Homeland Security officials, who said that the man approached Border Patrol agents with a handgun and the intent to “massacre” them. Footage of the encounter shows the man was holding a phone in his hand, not a gun, when federal agents took him to the ground and shot him.

Federal officials posted images of a handgun they said the man was carrying. Chief Brian O’Hara of the Minneapolis police said the man who was killed, a 37-year-old American citizen with no criminal record, had a firearms permit. Open carry is legal in Minnesota.
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Agree, from want Ive seen early afternoon NZ time, media says he held his hands up. And the legal gun was taken away, THEN he was shot. ICE pushed a woman away, Pretti assisted her, that got him into more strife. He has been to many protests, thats fine and legal. The word "brandish" has been used heavily, he bransdised a phone and its camera. Bears a resemblance to Renee Good. She was exercising her right to protest "Im not mad at you" She exited the scene, may or may not have brushed the ICE guys knee as she was leaving, so he shot her 3 times in the head. Not dissimilar.


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  #3455864 25-Jan-2026 17:49
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Just a reminder.

For months leading into the federal deployment, Trump made statements about Somali immigrants and communities in Minnesota that were widely criticized as inflammatory and racially insensitive

He “didn’t want [Somalis] in our country” and Somalia “is no good for a reason.”

Republicans and conservative advocates generally often prefer not to say certain blunt things openly, even if those ideas are implied in their policy positions

In the gun rights debates there's a unsaid tacit acceptance of civilian deaths vs. Charlie Kirk's blunt “gun deaths are worth it” language

ICE immigration enforcement in Minnesota is similar. They don't like like it when one of their own say the quiet part out loud.

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  #3455865 25-Jan-2026 17:50
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quickymart:

 

 

If this is accurate, the fact that he was shot dead is a really bad look for ICE and DHS...but then again, given the way they're being run and their leadership at the moment, I doubt they give a crap anymore 😠

 

 

He is reported to be a kind man, fits with his job. No criminal charges, a handful of driving offences. Like most people. No WOF, REGO, red light, etc


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  #3455866 25-Jan-2026 18:03
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The NY Times - Opinion - The Un-American President

 

24 Jan 2026

 


The American leader is meant to be a unifier, a strong and soothing presence in the world.

 

Trump is an anarchic toddler, constantly causing upheaval across the globe, transgressing and remaking everything in his helter-skelter image. 

 

He has no interest in fireside chats; he wants to set fires.

 

He’s more about droit du seigneur than noblesse oblige. He feels entitled to whatever he wants, from Greenland to Canada to the Kennedy Center to a Nobel Prize he didn’t win.

 

Unlike previous presidents, he isn’t countering Russia; he’s catering to it. ...

 

The depth of his shallowness is infinite. ...

 

Trump has made America un-American.

 

 

Three more years of this ?   😟





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  #3455867 25-Jan-2026 18:20
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I need to get a bucket. Trump stated UK soldiers kept away from the front line in Afghanistan. Now he says they were the greatest warriors. 


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  #3455869 25-Jan-2026 18:22
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An ex FBI person who was there for 25 years, states that issue is that MN police were not between the protesting public and ICE officers. makes complete sense. But there is a political issue here. How would it go if Mayor Frey and Governor Waltz decreed that the local police will take care of business over ICE activities?


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  #3455883 25-Jan-2026 19:23
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tdgeek:

 

Agree, from want Ive seen early afternoon NZ time, media says he held his hands up. And the legal gun was taken away, THEN he was shot. ICE pushed a woman away, Pretti assisted her, that got him into more strife. He has been to many protests, thats fine and legal. The word "brandish" has been used heavily, he bransdised a phone and its camera. Bears a resemblance to Renee Good. She was exercising her right to protest "Im not mad at you" She exited the scene, may or may not have brushed the ICE guys knee as she was leaving, so he shot her 3 times in the head. Not dissimilar.

 

 

I saw this too but not sure if it's 100% correct however it's not good (if fully true):

 

 

and this other one is from Fox News so I'd take it with a grain of salt...but this reads like blackmail (again, confirmation pending):

 

 

Edit, The Bulwark outlines what happens, then how Trump and co managed to make it worse:

 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/emergency-triad-another-american-murdered-dhs-minneapolis-alex-jeffrey-pretti

 

  •     At least some of the DHS agents involved in the killing attempted to leave the scene.
  •     When local law enforcement arrived to begin an investigation, the DHS agents attempted to send them away and deny them access to the crime scene.
  •     Someone—presumably within DHS—leaked to Fox that Pretti had a gun.
  •     DHS put out a statement (repeated by Border Patrol official Greg Bovino in his press conference) claiming that “an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun. . . . The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. . . . Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. . . . The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.”
  •     These statements seem to be lies.
  •     According to local law enforcement, Pretti had a concealed-carry permit and so was legally allowed to possess a firearm in public.
  •     There is no evidence to suggest that Pretti brandished—or even touched—his weapon.
  •     Instead, the available video evidence shows him holding his phone in front of him, in his right hand, and his left hand empty before being pepper-sprayed while attempting to help a fellow observer.
  •     The deputy White House chief of staff, Stephen Miller, called Pretti a “domestic terrorist” and an “assassin.” In fact, Pretti was a registered nurse working in intensive care at a Department of Veterans Affairs hospital.

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  #3455886 25-Jan-2026 20:31
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quickymart:

 

 


Bondi's letter does not say that. The claim made in this image is bogus.





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  #3455888 25-Jan-2026 20:45
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Dictators like Trump like it when their operatives break the law, now they have every reason to fight tooth and nail and kill if required to keep him in power.

 

Trump can be assured of loyalty as they know what is coming for them if a Trump or equivalent is not in power.

 

Committing murder for Trump probably puts you on top of his loyalty list.

 

These desperate people would hang Mike Pence. 

3 more years, oh and death is no problem as that would be J D Vance who is learning how far you can take things. 
His mentor Peter Thiel is quite ok with dictators that look after their oligarchs. 


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  #3455894 25-Jan-2026 21:10
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gzt:
quickymart:

Bondi's letter does not say that. The claim made in this image is bogus.

 

Phew, that's a good thing. I did say it was Fox News and to take it with a grain (or a sack) of salt...

 

Glad that one's wrong then - although with the orange buffoon I wouldn't put it past him!


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