Here we go again - 2026 Iran Attacks

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#3475968 31-Mar-2026 13:33

gzt: Trump is apparently talking about making GCC countries pay for the war.

I'm sure that's going to go down well in the GCC if they're forced to pay for a war they didn't want in the first place.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2026-03-30/trump-interested-in-calling-on-arab-states-to-help-pay-for-iran-war-white-house-says

That is now just a Mafia protection racket, "Nice region you've got there, shame if any happens to it, oops, look what somebody done."

I thought that Qatar's shiny golden 747 was part of a protection bribe.

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#3476001 31-Mar-2026 14:12

The Guardian - ‘Battle of the titans’: Trump’s distorted reality on Iran war runs into a brick wall

30 March 2026

Larry Jacobs, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance at the University of Minnesota:

Iran is Trump’s Waterloo. This is the demolition of the Donald Trump myth.

His supporters rave about his instincts and his improvisational style ... but the other interpretation is that he doesn’t know what he’s doing, that he hasn’t taken care to investigate the devastating consequences of his actions and so he’s digging himself deeper and deeper into a quagmire.

Whether you’re a military analyst or a political analyst, whether you’re in the Democratic or Republican party, there’s a reality here.

Donald Trump has met the moment of truth.

The kind of fictional life that he’s led and evoked over the last four or five decades has now been unmasked as a deadly drama.

It’s going to cost the lives of so many people. It’s going to devastate the US economy and the regional economy.

It’s going to set back America and its standing in the world. It’s a horrific moment.

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#3476074 31-Mar-2026 14:43

All this because he's a fucking narcissistic moron.

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#3476091 31-Mar-2026 15:25

Suppose Trump is vindicated by his history of avoiding or delaying consequences ( it might as well be avoiding ).
USA has setup a system where rich can get away with a lot and never feel consequence.
Consequence is for poor folks.

Epstein an exception that proves the rule as his closest buddies, associates, enablers in USA are just fine.

Its typical Trump to create a mess that others have to suffer for.
Bankrupts a casino, but takes the back exit with his investment, leaving everyone else with debt.

IRGC and Theocracy hardly likely to fold if Trump says he will just walk away soon, so they just have to wait him out.

Trump has already moved onto his monuments, the most bigly hand carved columns representing Healthcare funding cuts.

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#3476146 31-Mar-2026 15:59

Ugh, can we all just start sanctioning the US now please? And while we're at it, ban Americans from voting in US elections.

Trump tells aides he’s willing to end war without reopening Hormuz strait – report

Donald Trump has told aides he is willing to end the US military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed, administration officials are saying, according to the Wall Street Journal.

A move like this would likely extend Iran's firm grip on the waterway and leave a complex operation to reopen it for a later date, the report says.

"In recent days, Trump and his aides assessed that a mission to pry open the chokepoint would push the conflict beyond his timeline of four to six weeks. He decided that the US should achieve its main goals of hobbling Iran’s navy and its missile stocks and wind down current hostilities while pressuring Tehran diplomatically to resume the free flow of trade.

If that fails, Washington would press allies in Europe and the Gulf to take the lead on reopening the strait, the officials said.

There are also military options the US president could decide on, but they are not his immediate priority, they said."

Trump starts stupid global-recessionary war, doesn't win on the first day, gets bored, tells everyone else to clean up his mess.

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#3476281 31-Mar-2026 18:55

The NY Times - Opinion - Trump, Don’t Make Churchill’s Deadly Mistake (unlocked link)

March 31, 2026

Will the Strait of Hormuz be Trump's Gallipoli?

Success in President Trump’s war on Iran now appears partly to depend on whether Washington can reopen the Strait of Hormuz, stave off global economic decline and avoid another endless war.

Turkish history offers both a warning and a way forward about how to deal with this vital waterway, which Iran has effectively closed, sharply reducing the flow of oil through the Persian Gulf. Specifically, the lessons concern the Dardanelles, the narrow strait linking the Aegean Sea to the Sea of Marmara and, beyond it, the Bosporus and the Black Sea. ...

The Gallipoli campaign, as it was named for the peninsula that runs along the strait, of 1915-16 was Winston Churchill’s brainchild as first lord of the Admiralty. The Ottomans had entered the war on Germany’s side and seemed weak.

Britain’s idea was to free up passage in the strait, knock the Ottomans out of the war, and reopen supply routes to Russia. Instead, the campaign became one of the war’s bloodiest disasters for the Allies, killing more than 130,000 men ... and costing Churchill his post.

A good article - the Gallipoli analogy is quite plausible. 😶

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#3476356 31-Mar-2026 22:40

The article advocates something similar to the Montreux Convention under which Türkiye charges USD$5.83 per ton transit out of the Black Sea.

Something similar is a logical component to resolve some of the issues.

Unfortunately I fear that the Trump administration has used diplomacy as a fig leaf for aggressive action and is unlikely to have the talent or inclination to come up with multipolar balanced solutions to resolve conflict.

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#3476431 1-Apr-2026 10:09

What about the Donald J Trump Convention. Iran gets USD$5.83 per ton and Trump gets USD$583 per ton.

I think that'd get a fair bit of traction with the almost Octogenarian toddler.

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#3476436 1-Apr-2026 10:18

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/middle-east-conflict-live-updates-trump-tells-nations-struggling-with-fuel-shortages-go-get-your-own-oil-from-strait-of-hormuz/RDZGCNITFREZRP6QYYV4W7KM4U/

Total disconnection with reality.

One way forward is for the rest of the world to tell Trump and his handler Netanyahu they're on their own, there's no support what so ever for their war on Iran. Make it clear to Iran that the only people attacking Iran are the US and Israel and do a deal with Iran to allow oil to flow through the Straits of Hormuz.

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#3476456 1-Apr-2026 10:55

It's almost like Trumpstain just wanted to blow sh!t up

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#3476586 1-Apr-2026 14:07

I'm guessing this will be another 'I won the war and met all objectives' announcement..

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#3476596 1-Apr-2026 14:26

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A good article - the Gallipoli analogy is quite plausible. 😶

At least we Germans aren't there this time. 😁😉

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#3476992 1-Apr-2026 22:48

Iran learns Britain is allowing US war planes to fly Iraq missions from a UK base:

“But unfortunately, now we have realised that the British Fairford military base has been serving for the B2 and B1, you know, jets of the American side to be equipped by the different weapons to use against the Iranian people. It’s very unfortunate.” Asked whether British bases and assets were legitimate targets for Iran, Mr Mousavi replied: “This is the very important matter we are considering. This is a very important matter for our self-defence.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iran-us-war-middle-east-raf-fairford-b2949766.html

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#3477059 2-Apr-2026 07:54

AlterNet - Trump would be 'hanged' if he went before Nuremberg trials: top political scholar

01 April 2026

As consequences from the war on Iran continue to spin out, debates have raged about the legality of U.S. and Israeli actions.

According to one renowned political scholar, the matter is straightforward: if President Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu and their advisors ever faced a Nuremberg-style trial, they “would be hanged.”

Speaking on the podcast of former judge and longtime Fox contributor Andrew Napolitano, Professor John Mearsheimer,* asserted that there was no legal basis for American and Israeli attacks on Iran. ...

He also pointed out that both governments have been assassinating world leaders, which is strictly forbidden under international law. ...

* Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago

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#3477065 2-Apr-2026 08:21

I'd be devastated if that happened (!)

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