All good. There's a reason why politics got moved to a hidden forum. These aren't exactly simple discussions on a forum, they seem to always go much better over a beer 😀 

Classical Liberals are almost by definition centrists. They tend to have fairly mixed ideologies and not get too crazy about anything. They also tend to have impractical ideas and think too highly of themselves (I personally identify as a liberal).

Anti-vaxxers are every where and certainly the the 5G and 1080 crackpots are far more often on the left and IMO the people who go berserk about that stuff are just as often to go crazy about Trump. 

Now there is another issue that no one can influence but has people getting increasingly intense in the way they interact, especially online. It's getting worse and finding a consensus is getting harder and harder as we shout at each other.  This almost makes it inevitable that this style of politics will grow in NZ, fed by politicians on both sides.

Once we are used to being continually outraged the really important stuff gets lost in the noise. A lot of attention goes offshore with less and less attention on NZ politicians. Attention on organisations like councils and DHBs is almost non-existent but there is lots of shouting about Trump and the rest. 

We have a family friend in his early 60s who has disappeared down the right wing rabbit hole. He loves Trump and the rest of the associated nonsense. It's a mystery to me why he cares, he has never been the the US and never will but he's convinced he knows everything about the deep state. I honestly think he's lost his mind.

Similarly I have left wing friends who post all sorts of things on facebook everyday about Trumps latest stupid statement. As I said at the start he's a buffoon but most of his nonsense is for domestic consumption by his base.