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#2526663 21-Jul-2020 17:09

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He's an electorate MP so he can't be forced to resign by the party leader, there is no mechanism for that. He could be expelled from the party like Jami Lee Ross (who is facing more allegations today).

His position was untenable though so I guess he just wanted to make it stop

There are different ways of making someone do something. Let's say he was 'persuaded', horse head in the bed style.

Yip. If he didn't go he'd have weeks and weeks of media attention. His resignation means this will be done by Friday and the media will move on to the next horror show from one party or the other.

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#2526666 21-Jul-2020 17:19

Rikkitic:
Handle9: More people have quit being national MPs this term than have escaped managed isolation.

Great line. Maybe you can sell it to one of our comedians.

I can not claim credit. I stole it from David Cormacks Twitter post.

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#2526670 21-Jul-2020 17:30

Handle9:
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Great line. Maybe you can sell it to one of our comedians.

I can not claim credit. I stole it from David Cormacks Twitter post.

The other one I quite like from another twitter post today:

The Falloon story is changing so often by the end of today I expect him to be blaming Carol Baskin

https://twitter.com/nz_voter/status/1285321488170532865

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#2526675 21-Jul-2020 17:57

The timing of Raymond Huos resignation is interesting.

He's held some pretty strange positions, particularly around the Chinese occupation of Tibet. He and Jian Yang, as the MPs most closely identified with the CCP, resigning in very similar fashion at a similar time makes me very curious.

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#2526708 21-Jul-2020 19:10

DarthKermit:

At this stage 19 of 56 National MPs are going (basically one third).

National exodus

Not all are because of some scandal or other, but this is really going to hurt National. I don't rate their chances of forming a new government.

Some by scandal, some by JK/BE are gone, some by Simon has gone, some by Todd has gone, some by JC is in. They need to lose big, get a fresh look, 3 years to rebuild. if anyone anywhere wrote a big anti National story it would not get anywhere near what has transpired. If this was Labour, this thread would have quadrupled in size. But its not, and it hasn't. I feel sorry for JC, for all her faults, she's has the nouse to do some sorting, but its falling away at her feet.

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#2526711 21-Jul-2020 19:14

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Yip. Happened today

Nice to see he has a scrap of decency although his female victims may not feel the same way.

Forced not decided. He got found out. I cant believe anyone would follow Todd Mullers mental health saga (which I 100% believe) and use that as a tool to push his demeaning behaviour aside. You can't get lower than that IMHO. I dont hold National at fault here, its a person issue, I'm unsure how soon JC could have acted.

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#2526713 21-Jul-2020 19:19

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He and Jian Yang, as the MPs most closely identified with the CCP, resigning in very similar fashion at a similar time makes me very curious.

Indeed.

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#2526860 22-Jul-2020 08:14

Well that was almost predictable and very convenient:

Judith Collins:

"Yesterday I received an email from a member of the public saying they had information on a Labour minister [and there was] something in there about the nature of that. I spoke right away to the prime minister after question time and I advised her this had been received and I was not going back to the informant asking for further details or anything, that I wanted to make sure that the information got directly to her... I don't want us engaged in this, I want us involved in what matters to the people."

Spot the difference though, Ardern's office passed the complaint about Falloon to Collins and let them handle it.

Collins goes public to seek as much publicity as possible about a very vague allegation from "yesterday". Reminds me of WhaleOil / Slater. So if it is nothing (possible - MPs get many emails every day from nutters) then you've still created a rumour for the gossip merchants and attack-shills on social media...

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#2526898 22-Jul-2020 09:47

Fred99:

Well that was almost predictable and very convenient:

Judith Collins:

"Yesterday I received an email from a member of the public saying they had information on a Labour minister [and there was] something in there about the nature of that. I spoke right away to the prime minister after question time and I advised her this had been received and I was not going back to the informant asking for further details or anything, that I wanted to make sure that the information got directly to her... I don't want us engaged in this, I want us involved in what matters to the people."

Spot the difference though, Ardern's office passed the complaint about Falloon to Collins and let them handle it.

Collins goes public to seek as much publicity as possible about a very vague allegation from "yesterday". Reminds me of WhaleOil / Slater. So if it is nothing (possible - MPs get many emails every day from nutters) then you've still created a rumour for the gossip merchants and attack-shills on social media...

Seeking to be seen as good and no dirty politics. The smart move was to copy the PM's response, pass it on with no publicity, none of my business, that will come out later as the appropriate way to manage this. If JC wants some good PR she would have got it as it would have cpoem out later that she passed it to the PM in confidence

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#2526903 22-Jul-2020 09:54

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Seeking to be seen as good and no dirty politics. The smart move was to copy the PM's response, pass it on with no publicity, none of my business, that will come out later as the appropriate way to manage this. If JC wants some good PR she would have got it as it would have cpoem out later that she passed it to the PM in confidence

Agreed. It's a silly way to handle it by her I think. They both could have set a new protocol for this type of thing together. Point to the PM I guess.

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#2526908 22-Jul-2020 10:04

It is rather bizarre, convenient, but it must be factual that a Labour MP has done something bad. News at 11 as they say

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#2526924 22-Jul-2020 10:44

Its Lees-Galloway, resigned. IQ of Labour just increased

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#2526925 22-Jul-2020 10:46

Looks like we are having a right royal bad egg weeding out session. Hopefully, NZ politics will be better off for it. Wasn't Lees-Galloway in trouble earlier?

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#2526928 22-Jul-2020 10:49

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Looks like we are having a right royal bad egg weeding out session. Hopefully, NZ politics will be better off for it. Wasn't Lees-Galloway in trouble earlier?

Was it that Czech with the dodgy past he let in?

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#2526930 22-Jul-2020 10:50

tdgeek:

networkn:

Looks like we are having a right royal bad egg weeding out session. Hopefully, NZ politics will be better off for it. Wasn't Lees-Galloway in trouble earlier?

Was it that Czech with the dodgy past he let in?

Yeah, seems like it.

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