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#3077740 19-May-2023 07:42

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/18/opinions/elon-musk-soros-conspiracy-theories-ghitis/index.html

Interesting opinion piece from CNN on Musk and how we got to where we are today.

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#3077761 19-May-2023 09:15

Independent: Elon Musk claims there’s ‘no proof’ that Texas mall shooter with swastika tattoo was a neo-Nazi

Twitter CEO Elon Musk doubled down on a conspiracy theory he lent credence to, suggesting the gunman in the Allen, Texas, mass shooting was not a white supremacist, despite his Nazi tattoos and other damning evidence.

The tech mogul made the claims during an interview with CNBC on Tuesday evening.

On 9 May, Bellingcat, an open-source intelligence research group, found that the shooter — who killed eight, including several children, according to police — held white supremacist views. The group published a report detailing the shooter's ideological leanings and evidenced those claims using the gunman's social media posts.

Bellingcat's proof included photos of the shooter with a large swastika tattoo on his chest and a Right-Wing Death Squad patch that was sewn to his body armour. The details were taken from the shooter's profile on Odnoklassniki, a Russian social media site without moderation for hate speech. The shooter reportedly had been kicked off US social media sites, according to the report.

The investigators positively identified the shooter using photos of IDs and other identifying documents the shooter shared on the social media profile.

The Texas Department of Public Safety also said that the shooter appeared to support neo-Nazi ideology. An official noted that “[the shooter] had patches. He had tattoos.”

None of that was enough to convince Mr Musk, who said that there was “no proof” to the claims and that Bellingcat "literally specialises in psychological operations." He went on to call the report "either the weirdest story ever or a very bad psyop!"
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“I think it was incorrectly ascribed to be a white supremacist action,” Mr Musk said. “And the evidence for that was some obscure Russian website that no one’s ever heard of that had no followers. And the company that found this was Bellingcat. And do you know what Bellingcat is? Psyops.”

Bellingcat noted that it did not actually discover the Russian profile — the New York Times initially reported the profile's existence; Bellingcat just dug in further and produced their report.
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#3077765 19-May-2023 09:22

Maybe for Elon's benefit (and other people of his, uh, "ilk") maybe the shooter should have simply worn a badge on his shirt that said "I AM A NEO-NAZI" 🙄

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#3077767 19-May-2023 09:25

Musk seems very selective on free-speech. Also he doesn't seem to have access to "Google" to search for basic information before supporting right-wing conspiracy theories.

Business Insider: Twitter appeared to limit the reach of investigative news site Bellingcat days after Elon Musk suggested its Texas mall shooter investigation was a 'psyop'

The investigative news website Bellingcat reported on the Texas mall shooter's apparent neo-Nazi beliefs.

Right-wing commentators on Twitter suggested that it was fake news, and Elon Musk called it a "psyop."

Days later, Bellingcat's founder said its Twitter account no longer appeared in the app's search tool.
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"Right wing death squad" on body armor.

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#3079859 26-May-2023 17:17

TechDirt: Apparently Elon Doesn’t Think He Needs To Pay Rent Because San Francisco, California Is A ‘Sh_thole’; So Why Should We Pay For Twitter?

It’s no secret that Twitter isn’t paying many of its bills, including the rent for its headquarters. That was rumored last fall, but became much more clear when the landlords sued the company in January.

Now a new lawsuit, filed last week by six former employees, provides a lot more details on Elon’s view of, you know, paying for things he is contractually obligated to pay for. The employees, many of whom were high level, note that Musk and his circle of advisors (known by existing Twitter employees as “the goons”) made it clear to Twitter employees that they were to break all sorts of contracts
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#3080291 28-May-2023 12:02

Radio NZ / BBC - Twitter pulls out of voluntary EU disinformation code

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Twitter has pulled out of the European Union's voluntary code to fight disinformation, the EU has said.

Thierry Breton, who is the EU's internal market commissioner, announced the news on Twitter - but warned the firm new laws would force compliance.

"Obligations remain. You can run but you can't hide," he said.

Twitter will be legally required to fight disinformation in the EU from 25 August, he said, adding: "Our teams will be ready for enforcement."

Twitter has not confirmed its stance on the code or responded to a request for comment.

Dozens of tech firms both big and small signed up to the EU's disinformation code, including Meta - which owns Facebook and Instagram - as well as TikTok, Google, Microsoft and Twitch.

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#3080405 28-May-2023 18:04

Neuralink becomes available for human testing.

Among many complaints about Neuralink is several about “BioGlue.” It destroyed parts of the monkeys’ brains. The monkeys exhibiting substantial psychological effects, including anxiety and self-mutilating behavior including removing their own fingers.

Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine: Animal 21
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Only in 2022, following a public records lawsuit by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, did the troubling details of these experiments begin to come to light. The company is still conducting experiments on animals at its facilities in California and Texas.

This is the story of one monkey, “Animal 21.” She was a macaque who suffered for days at the hands of Neuralink employees. ...
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...Despite this tragic outcome, 11 months later, the Neuralink surgeon used Bioglue during an experimental procedure. Again, the adhesive leaked onto the animal’s brain. Neither incident was reported by UC Davis to the U.S. Department of Agriculture as required by the federal Animal Welfare Act, and the agency refused to cite the university and Neuralink for a violation even after the Physicians Committee filed a complaint in February 2022.

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#3080411 28-May-2023 18:24

BioGlue is a standard surgical adhesive that's been around forever, are they doing something abnormal with it?

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#3080480 28-May-2023 20:51

I'm have no medical knowledge. That's why I intentionally picked an article from "Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine"

In a number of articles about Neuralink, the word describing the surgery has been described as "crude" and "rushed".

I think Musk philosophy of "Move fast and break things" doesn't work well with living creatures that can feel pain.

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#3080482 28-May-2023 20:56

kingdragonfly: In a number of articles about Neuralink, the word describing the surgery has been described as "crude" and "rushed".

So a typical Elon hack, like not putting flame diverters/water suppression below a high-powered rocket. Hopefully the writeups won't cause unnecessary panic about use of surgical adhesive...

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#3080495 28-May-2023 21:54

Probably to do with blood brain barrier.
Things that are otherwise innocuous elsewhere in body are not so innocuous on the brain side.

Original company direction was to help those with disabilities, but Elon seems to aiming at something else.
Though it could just be for publicity and grandstanding like air hockey tables in a vacuum.

Thiel, Elon and friends are looking for one thing their money can't buy a 'cheat code' to cheat death ?
I'm not sure brain in a jar atop a teslabot 'Futarama' style or downloading yourself into a machine ( Is that code really you ) would be an answer.

You may not want to do that download too soon.
The alter you if its as driven as Elon may not want to wait for original to die to take its rightful place.

Star Trek The Original Series Season 3 Episode 1 Spock's Brain in under 2 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgqbW83slXU&t=15s

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#3082291 30-May-2023 10:53

Matthew Yglesias, a Bloomberg columnist, tweeted this article on Sunday

El Pais: Under Elon Musk, Twitter has approved 83% of censorship requests by authoritarian governments

Matthew captioned it quoting Musk calling himself a "free speech absolutist,"

Musk: "You're such a numbskull. Please point out where we had an actual choice and we will reverse it."

Matthew: "Look, I'm not the one who bought Twitter amidst a blaze of proclamations about free speech principles. Obviously you're within your rights to run your business however you want."

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#3084555 4-Jun-2023 04:49

„Oh-oo-oh, you think you're special?
Oh-oo-oh, you think you're something else?

Okay, so you're a rocket scientist?
That don't impress me much!“

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#3088171 10-Jun-2023 11:11

Facebook plans to launch Twitter rival with ActivityPub integration

Verge: One of Meta’s top executives showed employees a preview of the company’s upcoming Twitter competitor during a companywide meeting today that was watched by The Verge. The new standalone app will be based on Instagram and integrate with ActivityPub, the decentralized social media protocol. .

In some ways this may be a net positive for Twitter with Meta providing a new market with a Twitter-like platform as part of the Insta package and adding to potential Twitter users. Twitter may need to look at limited ActivityPub support to take advantage of that.

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#3089446 13-Jun-2023 13:33

gzt: Facebook plans to launch Twitter rival with ActivityPub integration

In some ways this may be a net positive for Twitter with Meta providing a new market with a Twitter-like platform as part of the Insta package and adding to potential Twitter users. Twitter may need to look at limited ActivityPub support to take advantage of that.

Twitter will never support a decentralised platform while Elon is at the helm. Unless he can control the narrative, there's no chance.

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