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#2446326 25-Mar-2020 14:44

Simon Bridges has turned the corner.

Appears now to be 100% on-board.

Thank goodness for that.

"Level 4 and shutting down is clearly right," Bridges said.

If the models that he and Ardern have both seen "are even half right" shutting down is the only option.

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#2446664 25-Mar-2020 20:48

Background: by most measures, Mississippi is the worst state in the US. Pick any indicator, and Mississippi is #50 of 50.

Yesterday the Mississippi Governor made the following statements. I can almost hear "Dixie" playing in the background: I wish I was in the land of cotton, old times there are not forgotten, Look away, look away, look away, Dixie Land.

24 hours later Mississippi saw the largest number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in a single day thus far.

Jackson Mississippi Free Press: Governor Rejects State Lockdown For COVID-19: ‘Mississippi's Never Going to Be China’

Governor Tate Reeves rejected calls today for a statewide shelter-at-home order, a measure of caution against the spread of COVID-19 being rapidly deployed next door in Louisiana, elsewhere in the United States and across the globe.

"It is my goal to make sure we make good, solid decisions based on experts,” the governor said in an afternoon Facebook Live address, where he took questions from Mississippi residents. “No one at the State Department of Health has recommended that we have a statewide shelter-in-place order," Reeves added.

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One Mississippian asked the governor why the state was not emulating China, the first country to detect COVID-19 and the first to control the spread of the virus. “Mississippi's never going to be China. Mississippi's never going to be North Korea,” Reeves responded. He added that “when looking at the numbers China’s putting out, claiming that they have no new cases over a period of time—I’m not entirely sure we can trust that data.”

Reeves’ skepticism of China’s control of the COVID-19 pandemic is incorrect, however. In areas across China most heavily affected by the novel coronavirus, the extensive lockdown, testing and case isolation protocols have eliminated the spread of the virus to the degree that the imminent danger for these areas is not community spread, but reinfection from travelers returning from abroad. Dr. Bruce Aylward, World Health Organization senior advisor, explains the dedication of the Chinese model. "They’re mobilized, like in a war, and it’s fear of the virus that was driving them. They really saw themselves as on the front lines of protecting the rest of China. And the world," he said.

...Reeves seems to be erring on the side of keeping people going to work rather than sheltering at home to help flatten the spiking curve of the virus in Mississippi. “We don’t want to make any decisions that would ultimately do more harm than good,” ... "We're not going to make rash decisions just because some states have decided to do things,” Reeves said.
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#2446787 26-Mar-2020 06:02

Fred99:

Simon Bridges has turned the corner.

Appears now to be 100% on-board.

Thank goodness for that.

"Level 4 and shutting down is clearly right," Bridges said. If the models that he and Ardern have both seen "are even half right" shutting down is the only option.

They gave him the 'important' job of chairing the committee to oversee the Government's response to Covid-19.

Much respect to the person who thought of that.

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#2453867 3-Apr-2020 15:24

David Clark health minister busted for mountain biking 2km from home. No doubt he's under a lot of stress like the rest of them. Bad decision though. They need to organise something for these guys to blow off some stress imo. Must be pretty bad.

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#2454824 5-Apr-2020 10:08

What are the characteristics of the governments doing well in this crisis?

Taiwan's Health Minister, an epidemiologist by training, led their effort

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/11/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/taiwan-coronavirus-covid-19/#.XokEyYgzZEY

Our health minister, David Clark, dropped out of medical school.

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#2454828 5-Apr-2020 10:13

JWR:

Simon Bridges has turned the corner.

Appears now to be 100% on-board.

Thank goodness for that.

"Level 4 and shutting down is clearly right," Bridges said. If the models that he and Ardern have both seen "are even half right" shutting down is the only option.

They gave him the 'important' job of chairing the committee to oversee the Government's response to Covid-19.

Much respect to the person who thought of that.

Im quite impressed with SB in that committee. He has, as above, been part of the no partisan approach, being on the same side. Its fine also to criticise if need be.In the committee he chairs, he has been harsh, as has the committee, asking the hard questions, but he hasn't used that as an obvious agenda. Good to see

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#2454830 5-Apr-2020 10:18

gchiu:

What are the characteristics of the governments doing well in this crisis?

Taiwan's Health Minister, an epidemiologist by training, led their effort

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/11/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/taiwan-coronavirus-covid-19/#.XokEyYgzZEY

Our health minister, David Clark, dropped out of medical school.

You've lost me completely. Who leads the effort? Ministry of Health. Guidance from WHO and others that they seek.

If I was an MP and you were too, you could be Minister of Transport I could be Minister of Health, while its ideal if they have some knowledge, they are just the leader of the umpteen other Ministerial employees who are deeply qualified. Thats why you see a CEO of a company, moving to be CEO of a totally different industry. They are CEO's, they lead the expertise, they dont need to have it themselves.

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#2454865 5-Apr-2020 11:00

tdgeek:

If I was (sic) an MP and you were too, you could be Minister of Transport I could be Minister of Health, while its ideal if they have some knowledge, they are just the leader of the umpteen other Ministerial employees who are deeply qualified. Thats why you see a CEO of a company, moving to be CEO of a totally different industry. They are CEO's, they lead the expertise, they dont need to have it themselves.

Have some knowledge? It's imperative to have more than a modicum of knowledge so you know who to tap for information and not just whoever is currently employed at the MOH.

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#2454880 5-Apr-2020 11:20

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/407969/wuhan-virus-national-party-calls-for-stronger-action-on-borders ( 23rd January 2020 )

However, Woodhouse said the fact there weren't any direct flights from Wuhan did not mean increased vigilance and screening at the border were not needed.

He said given Chinese New Year celebrations were imminent, there was an increased risk with large numbers of international visitors expected, combined with large gatherings.

"With reports Wuhan has stopped all public transport and flights to try to contain the deadly virus, it's clear the government is not doing enough to prevent the disease arriving in New Zealand."

The National Party is calling on the government to:

Make the coronavirus a specific notifiable disease
Ask health questions on arrival about travel history and any symptoms for those who have travelled from affected areas
Heighten health surveillance at international airports with appropriate equipment and staff
Ensure all DHBs have outbreak protocols in place
Health Minister David Clark said the government was "alert but not alarmed" about the outbreak.

Prof M Baker:

"We have to direct flights from several cities in China into Auckland and Christchurch, and we also have flights that transit very swiftly through Australia to other airports in New Zealand, Wellington and Queenstown, for example," he said.

"So we are very exposed, just as Australia and the US and all of Europe is very exposed."

Prof Baker hoped the epidemic had been contained, but he said that seemed very unlikely.

"We have to direct flights from several cities in China into Auckland and Christchurch, and we also have flights that transit very swiftly through Australia to other airports in New Zealand, Wellington and Queenstown, for example," he said.

"So we are very exposed, just as Australia and the US and all of Europe is very exposed."

Prof Baker hoped the epidemic had been contained, but he said that seemed very unlikely.

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#2454891 5-Apr-2020 11:38

gchiu:

tdgeek:

If I was (sic) an MP and you were too, you could be Minister of Transport I could be Minister of Health, while its ideal if they have some knowledge, they are just the leader of the umpteen other Ministerial employees who are deeply qualified. Thats why you see a CEO of a company, moving to be CEO of a totally different industry. They are CEO's, they lead the expertise, they dont need to have it themselves.

Have some knowledge? It's imperative to have more than a modicum of knowledge so you know who to tap for information and not just whoever is currently employed at the MOH.

I know a CEO that worked for a telco, then a TV company then a supermarket chain. i also know of one that worked for a LARGE US shopping business, now works for an airline, the list goes on. At that level , its about leadership, getting and using the right team (of experts) underneath you