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#3494734 22-May-2026 15:34

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Every ship that gets out because a government made arrangements with Iran strengthens Iran and weakens the US, both in terms of direct influence (i.e. the US couldn't get the ship out, Iran allowed it out) and also in terms of weakening the petrodollar because you can bet they didn't pay Iran in USD.

The US has threatened to sanction any Vessels/companies that pay Iran for Transit,

But I'm guessing Oil/Shipping companies are well experienced in ensuring payoffs are routed via semi-legitimate 3rd party "brokers" and "service providers" and in currencies and commodities that are really hard to trace... $2 million euro will go into a single briefcase reasonably easily ...

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#3494739 22-May-2026 15:53

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The US has threatened to sanction any Vessels/companies that pay Iran for Transit,

But I'm guessing Oil/Shipping companies are well experienced in ensuring payoffs are routed via semi-legitimate 3rd party "brokers" and "service providers" and in currencies and commodities that are really hard to trace... $2 million euro will go into a single briefcase reasonably easily ...

That and the fact that it won't be long before that would mean sanctioning practically every shipping company on the planet which is absurd from every perspective and would just be another nail in the coffin for the US as a superpower.

US: Sanction MSC, and Maersk!

Rest of World: Ummmm... no.

And just like that, the US ability to unilaterally enforce its sanctions through SWIFT etc. dies.

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#3494798 22-May-2026 16:20

wellygary:

SaltyNZ:

Every ship that gets out because a government made arrangements with Iran strengthens Iran and weakens the US, both in terms of direct influence (i.e. the US couldn't get the ship out, Iran allowed it out) and also in terms of weakening the petrodollar because you can bet they didn't pay Iran in USD.

The US has threatened to sanction any Vessels/companies that pay Iran for Transit,

But I'm guessing Oil/Shipping companies are well experienced in ensuring payoffs are routed via semi-legitimate 3rd party "brokers" and "service providers" and in currencies and commodities that are really hard to trace... $2 million euro will go into a single briefcase reasonably easily ...

Wait. I thought Iran was blocking the strait. But it sounds like the USA are the ones blocking it, with this policy.

So confusing.

At the risk of invoking Goodwin's Law, USA government right now:

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#3494809 22-May-2026 17:22

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So confusing.

This is merely the twilight of American democracy. 😁

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#3495650 26-May-2026 20:01

Two days ago we heard there is a new peace plan to end months of war, and it was “largely negotiated”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/24/us-iran-inch-closer-to-deal-to-end-the-war-what-to-know
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-peace-deal-draft-memo-white-house/

Now the US is making new demands, including one where all the countries in the region must join the Abraham Accords as part of the Iran deal.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-says-mandatory-countries-join-abraham-accords-part-iran-deal-rcna346816

[Trump] pointed to Saudi Arabia and Qatar as countries that should “immediately” sign on, followed by Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt and Jordan.

He wrote that “after all the work done by the United States to try and pull this very complex puzzle together, it should be mandatory that all of these Countries, at a minimum, simultaneously, sign onto the Abraham Accords.”

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#3495651 26-May-2026 20:03

The mess he started.

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#3495658 26-May-2026 21:25

alexx:

Two days ago we heard there is a new peace plan to end months of war, and it was “largely negotiated”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/24/us-iran-inch-closer-to-deal-to-end-the-war-what-to-know
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-peace-deal-draft-memo-white-house/

Now the US is making new demands, including one where all the countries in the region must join the Abraham Accords as part of the Iran deal.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-says-mandatory-countries-join-abraham-accords-part-iran-deal-rcna346816

[Trump] pointed to Saudi Arabia and Qatar as countries that should “immediately” sign on, followed by Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt and Jordan.

He wrote that “after all the work done by the United States to try and pull this very complex puzzle together, it should be mandatory that all of these Countries, at a minimum, simultaneously, sign onto the Abraham Accords.”

Once again Donald is Bibi's puppet

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#3495662 26-May-2026 22:07

*Bibi’s Gimp

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#3495665 26-May-2026 23:24

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*Bibi’s Gimp

FTFY

Please stop insulting Gimps. 😃

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#3495699 27-May-2026 09:27

So, Iran opens the Strait with the ceasefire, Trump then replaces that with a blockade on Iran.

Now, we have negotiations that are going "well" so he fires upon Iran targets near thew Strait, another attack that is described as self defense, and he wonders why Iran is playing hardball. US cannot be trusted before a deal or during the deal

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#3495708 27-May-2026 09:46

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So, Iran opens the Strait with the ceasefire, Trump then replaces that with a blockade on Iran.

Now, we have negotiations that are going "well" so he fires upon Iran targets near thew Strait, another attack that is described as self defense, and he wonders why Iran is playing hardball. US cannot be trusted before a deal or during the deal

Frankly I'm shocked the Iranians are being as level-headed as they even are.

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#3496100 28-May-2026 11:25

The orange buffoon threatened Oman, a US ally, overnight.

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#3496102 28-May-2026 11:31

freitasm:

The orange buffoon threatened Oman, a US ally, overnight.

Blow em up. What an idiot, Oman is a key support for negotiations

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#3496104 28-May-2026 11:45

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freitasm:

The orange buffoon threatened Oman, a US ally, overnight.

Blow em up. What an idiot, Oman is a key support for negotiations

Trump has never actually made a deal. He only works with people he can bully and dominate with money and lawyers and has never had any meaningful push-back in his life. Now he has got himself into a situation with someone equally as ruthless and evil but waaaaaay smarter and with nothing to lose. I don't think he has a clue how to handle it so he's floundering.

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#3496110 28-May-2026 11:56

SaltyNZ:

tdgeek:

freitasm:

The orange buffoon threatened Oman, a US ally, overnight.

Blow em up. What an idiot, Oman is a key support for negotiations

Trump has never actually made a deal. He only works with people he can bully and dominate with money and lawyers and has never had any meaningful push-back in his life. Now he has got himself into a situation with someone equally as ruthless and evil but waaaaaay smarter and with nothing to lose. I don't think he has a clue how to handle it so he's floundering.

Yep, now he's playing with the big boys, not low paid immigrants building his building that never got paid. Or others that his wealth bullied them into sweet deals

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