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#2823774 3-Dec-2021 13:55

quickymart:

Eventually there will be far more houses than buyers (I hope) and prices will start to fall (I hope) to normal/sane levels.

House prices might make a market correction, but for the foreseeable future, and at least the next 10-15 years I expect demand to outstrip supply. There might be brief periods of reprieve depending on the economy.

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#2826128 7-Dec-2021 17:20

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-luxon-vs-jacinda-ardern-in-first-question-time-clash/QJ2KF3RULZHOYKYRML43RTEZEY/

First question time session with Luxon's new National cabinet vs Labour.

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#2826133 7-Dec-2021 17:26

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-luxon-vs-jacinda-ardern-in-first-question-time-clash/QJ2KF3RULZHOYKYRML43RTEZEY/

First question time session with Luxon's new National cabinet vs Labour.

I didn't see it. Who won?

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#2826192 7-Dec-2021 18:07

Rikkitic:
quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-luxon-vs-jacinda-ardern-in-first-question-time-clash/QJ2KF3RULZHOYKYRML43RTEZEY/

First question time session with Luxon's new National cabinet vs Labour.

I didn't see it. Who won?

I don’t think you can read too much into any parliamentary debate as I believe questions have to be submitted in advance. That and the fact that Mallard as speaker is protecting the government as much as he can and you don’t really get any genuine impression of ability or who ‘won’ or lost.

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#2826201 7-Dec-2021 18:43

marmel:

I don’t think you can read too much into any parliamentary debate as I believe questions have to be submitted in advance. That and the fact that Mallard as speaker is protecting the government as much as he can and you don’t really get any genuine impression of ability or who ‘won’ or lost.

I respectfully disagree. Clare Curran certainly didn't get a graceful exit. Nor did she deserve one. No-one was protecting her that day.

Or how about Maurice Williamson's big gay rainbow speech? You can read a lot into what MPs say in parliament, and how they say it.

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#2826202 7-Dec-2021 18:48

Rikkitic:
marmel:

I don’t think you can read too much into any parliamentary debate as I believe questions have to be submitted in advance. That and the fact that Mallard as speaker is protecting the government as much as he can and you don’t really get any genuine impression of ability or who ‘won’ or lost.

I respectfully disagree. Clare Curran certainly didn't get a graceful exit. Nor did she deserve one. No-one was protecting her that day.

Or how about Maurice Williamson's big gay rainbow speech? You can read a lot into what MPs say in parliament, and how they say it.

I think they had decided Curran was of no further use by then and Williamson’s speech whilst entertaining was just that, entertaining. Parliament is not a genuine arena for debate given so much is structured, especially around question time. It’s often nothing more of a PR stunt for one or both parties.

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#2826295 7-Dec-2021 22:02

Rikkitic:

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chris-luxon-vs-jacinda-ardern-in-first-question-time-clash/QJ2KF3RULZHOYKYRML43RTEZEY/

First question time session with Luxon's new National cabinet vs Labour.

I didn't see it. Who won?

If you watch all the questions, they're viewable here (apparently the livestream wasn't working today): https://vimeo.com/showcase/9085369

The Spinoff review: https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates#a-verdict-on-the-first-question-time-spar-between-ardern-and-luxon

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#2845586 9-Jan-2022 11:05

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/01/covid-19-national-mp-harete-hipango-deletes-post-showing-her-at-another-anti-vaccine-mandate-and-lockdown-protest.html

Placing this here as it's more politics related - a National MP has attended an antivaxx protest twice now - the first time she claimed she didn't know what the protest was about (couldn't read the signs?), the second time she proudly posted it on FB until Luxon spoke to her.

Ironically, most National MP's didn't want her back in Parliament anyway, she only got there because Nick Smith left: https://www.newsroom.co.nz/national-party-all-out-of-love-for-returning-mp

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#2845605 9-Jan-2022 12:43

Who comes in if she gets chucked

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#2845606 9-Jan-2022 12:48

GV27:
Who comes in if she gets chucked

She is a list MP so the next person in the list, Johnathan Young from New Plymouth according to the Nats website.

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#2845608 9-Jan-2022 12:51

How long before the loose cannon gets pushed overboard?

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#2845611 9-Jan-2022 12:55

elpenguino: How long before the loose cannon gets pushed overboard?

She might get a bit more leeway being female and Māori, two demographics the Nats aren’t exactly over represented in.

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#2845782 9-Jan-2022 16:54

marmel:
GV27:

Who comes in if she gets chucked

She is a list MP so the next person in the list, Johnathan Young from New Plymouth according to the Nats website.

Oh, great. Mr clueless "Skynet is real" himself.

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#2846521 11-Jan-2022 07:07

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/01/covid-19-m-ori-council-leader-matthew-tukaki-calls-on-national-mp-harete-hipango-to-resign-after-attending-anti-vaccine-mandate-and-lockdown-protest.html

I agree!

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#2846525 11-Jan-2022 07:19

This is Luxon's first test of people management and he isn't doing much inspiring tbh.

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