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sir1963
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  #3402215 12-Aug-2025 19:31
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Paul1977:

 

Not sure what you mean by “handled” a dead person. I’ve seen dead people, and have been with a close family member as they died. But I’m not sure what relevance that has to this discussion?

 

I’m not arguing against the benefit vaccines. I’m just questioning the severity of the consequences of the mandates for those who didn’t comply.

 

We have gotten well off the original topic, which was more around people turning to alt media because of a growing distrust of mainstream media. But it’s morphed into a rehash of discussions/arguments from several years ago.

 

 

Alternate media is a grift.

 

They deliberately lie, mislead, omit facts, etc etc etc all in the name of getting money from gullible donors.
Flat earth, Faked moon landings, climate change denial, young earth creationists, etc etc etc....all con jobs.

 

Reality is, we will have another epidemic, and reality is the gullible will die at a much higher rate.
Have people who have been lied to by conspiracy nuts been able to make an informed choice ?

 

What is their recourse when they die at much higher rates ?

 

Reality is, given the unknowns, the right decisions were made.

 

 

 

The interesting thing with the Spanish Flu (which actually came from the USA) was that it was a later mutation which made it far more lethal




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  #3402219 12-Aug-2025 19:42
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

Not sure what you mean by “handled” a dead person. I’ve seen dead people, and have been with a close family member as they died. But I’m not sure what relevance that has to this discussion?

 

I’m not arguing against the benefit vaccines. I’m just questioning the severity of the consequences of the mandates for those who didn’t comply.

 

We have gotten well off the original topic, which was more around people turning to alt media because of a growing distrust of mainstream media. But it’s morphed into a rehash of discussions/arguments from several years ago.

 

 

By Handled I mean have zero choice in having to deal with it, deal with the families and the situation.
It means getting the corpse onto a gurney, getting them into an ambulance, taking them to a morgue and sliding their body into a refrigerator.
It means seeing people with horrific injuries, the blood, the screaming, the chaos.
It means the people around you are not there voluntarily , they are also shocked, distraught

 

It's not something that ever leaves you. I deeply respect 1st responders who chose to do this for their communities, what it takes from them and their families.

 

When my mum died, I sat outside, I was not going to add my mum to the list of things I had seen.


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  #3402231 12-Aug-2025 20:37
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MichaelNZ: The whole "Pro Choice" and "Me Too" causes were fundamentally based around a simple premise of "My Body, My Choice". What transpired highlights a massive blind spot many of the Left have fallen into

You seem to have identifed "Pro Choice" as some how a left wing thing. It isn't. There is no shortage of 'right' party voters who are essentially "Pro Choice". In a similar way there is no shortage of 'left' party voters who are not.

In a similar way "Me Too" is not a left or right politics issue. Women of all political viewpoints regard that kind of stuff as unacceptable.

I think you'd have to be consuming a fair amount of a certain kind of media to be convinced those are somehow left things.





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  #3402322 13-Aug-2025 08:13
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Paul1977:

 

Maybe the consequence of asserting your right to not be exposed to potentially fatal diseases is that you have to stay at home yourself.

 

 

 

 

You remember those things we called "lockdowns" right?





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  #3402406 13-Aug-2025 15:19
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Just got my 9th (!) Covid booster today and my tail hasn't fallen off yet!

 

 





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  #3402412 13-Aug-2025 15:23
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Rikkitic:

 

Just got my 9th (!) Covid booster today and my tail hasn't fallen off yet!

 

 

That's a lot of redundancy for Bill Gates when he's tracking you. If one microchip fails, there are 8 backups!


 
 
 
 

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  #3402414 13-Aug-2025 16:10
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Rikkitic:

 

Just got my 9th (!) Covid booster today and my tail hasn't fallen off yet!

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was told that 50% of us would be dead within a year of the vaccine shot.....I am still waiting for this to happen.


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  #3402443 13-Aug-2025 19:59
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sir1963:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Just got my 9th (!) Covid booster today and my tail hasn't fallen off yet!

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was told that 50% of us would be dead within a year of the vaccine shot.....I am still waiting for this to happen.

 

 

If you believe clowns like Brian Tamaki, people are "dropping like flies", however if that really was the case it would have affected most of my family, and I sure as hell wouldn't be posting on Facebook about it, I'd be screaming from the rooftops telling people not to get the vaccine.

 

But people aren't dropping like flies. Self-declared online experts on vaccines (and people like Tamaki) aren't right, even though they might (loudly) profess to be. It's the gullible who get sucked into believing their bs (and worse still, giving them money) that make it worse. 

 

Case in point: https://archive.ph/oGWVb

 

Voices For Misinformation, uh, "Freedom" - giving new meaning to the old saying, "a fool and his money are soon parted".


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  #3402444 13-Aug-2025 20:17
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sir1963:

 

I was told that 50% of us would be dead within a year of the vaccine shot.....I am still waiting for this to happen.

 

 

 

 

Me too. Some days I wait harder than others, but so far always disappoint.





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  #3402459 13-Aug-2025 22:36
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SaltyNZ:

 

sir1963:

 

I was told that 50% of us would be dead within a year of the vaccine shot.....I am still waiting for this to happen.

 

 

 

 

Me too. Some days I wait harder than others, but so far always disappoint.

 

 

100% of us will be dead, eventually..

 

 


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  #3402469 14-Aug-2025 07:58
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100% of us will be dead, eventually..

 

 

 

 

50 years from now, the grandchildren of the COVID antivaxxers: 'See? See!? Every single one of them who got the vaccine is dead!'





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Plunket interviewed our mayor a couple of months ago. So hard to watch, he was chewing gum, cutting the mayor off frequently. Surprised he has any regular viewers. 


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  #3405202 17-Aug-2025 14:23
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Zigg:

 

Plunket interviewed our mayor

 

 

Which


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quickymart:

 

Zigg:

 

Plunket interviewed our mayor

 

 

Which

 

 

Bernie Wanden/Horowhena 


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  #3411881 6-Sep-2025 15:25
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Spinoff article covers the The Platform's current financial condition. Plunkett will aquire the Wright's ownership stake:

https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/05-09-2025/sean-plunket-now-stands-alone-on-his-platform

The Spinoff says Spark and One NZ are advertising on The Platform with preroll ads. That really surprises me.

It's been a while since I last changed my provider. Now looks good

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