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#2888847 19-Mar-2022 22:58

tdgeek:
I dont feel its unreasonable that the West's lack of response then has contributed to the impunity Putin has now.

Although a certain amount of the commentary on this particular issue is wokeness, there's also some truth to it: It's only when the Russian military did it in Ukraine that people cared. What they're doing there now is a repeat of the playbook from Chechnya, and more recently Syria, including premeditated war crimes like declaring civilian safety corridors and then bombing them once they were packed with civilians (Baku–Rostov), but at the time very little was said or done about it.

Which, as you point out, is probably why Putin and the Russian military thought it was business as usual in Ukraine, and were caught unawares by the rest of the world's reaction.

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#2888895 20-Mar-2022 09:43

Been too use to the american way of war on TV. It be no surprise if Kyiv is gased as Ukraine has turned it into a fortress. With so many defenders there.

Russia will soon want to present President Zelensky with a terrible choice: to continue to resist, and fight for freedom and independence at an appalling cost in deaths of civilians and destruction of Ukraine’s cities; or to accept Russia’s terms to preserve life even at the cost of submitting once again to Moscow’s rule

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#2888931 20-Mar-2022 11:38

Twitter: RonFilipkowski

Madison Cawthorn is a U.S. house of representative for North Carolina, a member of the Republican Party,

"Russian state TV repeatedly showing the clip of the Republican calling Zelensky a 'thug.'

The best propagandists for Putin in the world are US Republican politicians."

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#2888947 20-Mar-2022 12:32

kingdragonfly: The best propagandists for Putin in the world are US Republican politicians.

Tucker Carlson is probably still Putin's number one spokesperson ...

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#2888970 20-Mar-2022 14:49

Avaaz, a nonprofit that promotes global activism on issues like climate change, is running a global petition to set up a Nuremberg-style tribunal to have Putin charged with war crimes. In case anyone else wants to sign it...

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#2888978 20-Mar-2022 15:29

Red paint was poured on the gate of the Russian embassy in Dublin.

The Guardian - ... fury over Ukraine invasion

11 March

In Ireland, opposition to the Russian invasion has been focused on the country’s embassy in Dublin, whose gates were forced open after a truck deliberately reversed in to the estate earlier this week. ...

A priest was also arrested last week after dousing the embassy gates with red paint. ...

Local councillors are taking a longer-term approach, and have voted to change the name of the street where the embassy is situated from Orwell Road to Independent Ukraine Road.

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#2889040 20-Mar-2022 17:40

kingdragonfly: Madison Cawthorn is a U.S. house of representative for North Carolina, a member of the Republican Party, "Russian state TV repeatedly showing the clip of the Republican calling Zelensky a 'thug.'

Cawthorn was recently caught driving without a license. Looks like he lost it for speeding offenses or perhaps it was something else as well and they let me him off lightly with speeding only. Cawthorn lost the use of his legs in a car accident. A result of a friend apparently 'sleeping' at the wheel.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/10/rep-madison-cawthorn-charged-with-driving-with-a-revoked-license.html

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#2889279 20-Mar-2022 18:50

Sideface:

Red paint was poured on the gate of the Russian embassy in Dublin.

What Puke-In will learn is that irregardless of the war result, he has lost and is out of his depth

His legacy is genocide, lack of military acumen, and hate. Ultimately he will encourage democracy, less West hate, less China influence, and lets get on with it and enjoy life. But the innocent human, unnecessary cost....

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#2889313 20-Mar-2022 20:59

Ukraine: Belarusian rail workers reportedly cut connections — live updates (msn.com)

Belarusian railway workers have reportedly cut off all rail connections between their country and Ukraine.

Ukrainian railway chief Olexander Kamyshin thanked Belarusian railway workers for this claimed act of sabotage on Saturday.

"As of today, I can say there is no rail traffic between Belarus and Ukraine," Kamyshin was quoted as saying by Ukraine's Unian news agency. Kamyshin said that he would not give further details.

Franak Viacorka, advisor to exiled Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, tweeted about the incident and said that it had been confirmed by Belarusian railway workers, while declining to provide details.

Although Russia has moved many of its troops and military equipment into Ukraine through Belarus, Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko has not committed Belarusian troops to the offensive.

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#2889316 20-Mar-2022 21:04

freitasm:
Belarusian railway workers have reportedly cut off all rail connections between their country and Ukraine.

For those unaware of the significance of this, Russia is very, very heavily dependent on rail transport for the military, so this will have a huge impact on materiel resupply via Belarus.

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#2889359 21-Mar-2022 05:56

neb: For those unaware of the significance of this, Russia is very, very heavily dependent on rail transport for the military, so this will have a huge impact on materiel resupply via Belarus.

If this claimed act of sabotage is true (haven't seen any corroboration yet?) it's a sign Lukashenko's control is fraying.

So far Franak Viacorka, (advisor to exiled Belarusian opposition leader Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya), tweeted that an incident's been confirmed by Belarusian railway workers, but hasn't provided details.

Previous attempts have involved setting fire to a signal box, damaging rail traffic lights and a cyber-attack on the rail's scheduling control system. Hopefully this is more serious damage.

Belarussian special forces and plain-clothed paramilitary patrols are protecting the physical rail lines in the Russian controlled Southeast (Gomel), and Polish border area in the West (Brest).
Under Belarussia's autocracy even being suspected of something like this would mean being hauled away by their KGB (or their Main Directorate for Combating Organized Crime and Corruption).
Nasty things are then sure to happen.

Lukashenko may not be the bightest spark, but I'd bet he understands that even rumours of dictators showing weakness can make it all come crashing down.

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