Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1597190 23-Jul-2016 11:20

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/guess-what-the-gop-wants-a-nanny-state-too/2016/07/21/99d2d8c2-4f7f-11e6-a422-83ab49ed5e6a_story.html

I think this sums up the mentality of the Trump mob quite well.

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#1597220 23-Jul-2016 12:50

dejadeadnz:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/guess-what-the-gop-wants-a-nanny-state-too/2016/07/21/99d2d8c2-4f7f-11e6-a422-83ab49ed5e6a_story.html

I think this sums up the mentality of the Trump mob quite well.

I don't think they really know what they want, if they did Trump would be history

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1597417 23-Jul-2016 19:24

joker97: Being good at marketing you can put a monkey out there they will still vote the monkey

Its not about the skill its about the marketing. Or in our case, watching CNN from 12 hours flight time away!

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#1597453 23-Jul-2016 20:34

Is Trump still running? Wow - My bookie will be making a fortune - everyone is betting he would tank when the USA public woke out of their stupor or someone would have shot him by now.

I can feel my IQ points draining just thinking about it - must leave now while stillll caaannnnn tthhhiiiinccccccccccc

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#1597454 23-Jul-2016 20:35

Fabian:

I hope you're not an American voter. A persona created for a made-for-TV scripted "unreality" soap opera is a poor criterion for the actor's ability to lead a powerful nation.

How about Arnold Schwarzenegger for Governor of California, He did an alright job didn't he????

Bring back Regan, he could talk and chew gum both. A real actor.

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#1597457 23-Jul-2016 20:40

nunz:
Fabian:

I hope you're not an American voter. A persona created for a made-for-TV scripted "unreality" soap opera is a poor criterion for the actor's ability to lead a powerful nation.

How about Arnold Schwarzenegger for Governor of California, He did an alright job didn't he????

Bring back Regan, he could talk and chew gum both. A real actor.

I loved him in Star Wars.

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#1597493 23-Jul-2016 22:01

Look, I know that Regan was prezi twice already. But can't they just dig him up and chuck him back in the white house for a third time?

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#1597550 24-Jul-2016 08:21

It amuses me to watch the indignation of the liberal newstainment media toward the U.S. presidential

candidate Mr Trump, and their incomprehension over the popularity of his message among the white

working class.

As white working class myself, I understand, and share in a N.Z. context, the same frustration, sense

of powerlessness, even betrayal, toward our own politicians, careerist bureaucrats, and corporate elites,

who have over the past thirty years progressively undermined the working class and lower middle class

via policies that caused the decline of local manufacturing jobs, allow mass immigration to create

an oversupply of workers, and made home ownership unaffordable (at least in wider Auckland), all in

the name of market 'efficiency' via competition in the Reagan/Thatcher model.

A simple message... 'I will fix it!" has much appeal.

Whether achievable or not is another matter, but it will attract votes by working class of all backgrounds,

which politically liberal and economically insular bourgeois of the newstainment media, and many online

forums, do not understand, and rage against.

So now, in the usual online style, let the attack begin on the messenger, rather than discussion of the

message itself...

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#1597611 24-Jul-2016 09:15

The problem in this case is that the 'messenger' (Drumph) is a pathological liar and blowhard who makes sweeping statements with absolutely nothing to back them up. He says elect me and I will stop crime, but he gives no indication whatsoever of how he might actually go about doing that. He is tapping into people's anger and disillusionment but he is doing exactly what every other politician does, making empty promises that he cannot and will not keep. He also constantly contradicts himself and shamelessly ploughs on, apparently believing he can turn water into wine and wine into water at the same time. The issue is not whether anyone agrees with his message or not, it is entirely with him.

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#1597630 24-Jul-2016 10:25

An interesting analysis which exactly mirrors what @NedLudd said... the conservatives don't want policies and analysis and correct responses. They just want a "Strict Dad" who says he will fix it.

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#1597633 24-Jul-2016 10:29

jonathan18:

<snip> My favourite Trump-related news of the week has to be the speaking out by the ghost writer of his 1987 book "The Art of the Deal" <snip>

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Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All - more extracts from an interview with Tony Schwartz, author of “The Art of the Deal” :

“I put lipstick on a pig,” he said. “I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is.”
He went on, “I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

"... it’s impossible to keep him focused on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then ... ”
Schwartz believes that Trump’s short attention span has left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.”

“Trump stands for many of the things I abhor: his willingness to run over people, the gaudy, tacky, gigantic obsessions, the absolute lack of interest in anything beyond power and money.”

"People are dispensable and disposable in Trump’s world.” If Trump is elected President, he warned, “the millions of people who voted for him and believe that he represents their interests will learn what anyone who deals closely with him already knows - that he couldn’t care less about them.”

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#1597651 24-Jul-2016 11:23

Rikkitic:

<snip> He also constantly contradicts himself and shamelessly ploughs on, apparently believing he can turn water into wine and wine into water at the same time. <snip>

+1 See my earlier post on Narcissistic personality disorder.

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#1597699 24-Jul-2016 13:21

Rikkitic:

The problem in this case is that the 'messenger' (Drumph) is a pathological liar and blowhard who makes sweeping statements with absolutely nothing to back them up. He says elect me and I will stop crime, but he gives no indication whatsoever of how he might actually go about doing that. He is tapping into people's anger and disillusionment but he is doing exactly what every other politician does, making empty promises that he cannot and will not keep. He also constantly contradicts himself and shamelessly ploughs on, apparently believing he can turn water into wine and wine into water at the same time. The issue is not whether anyone agrees with his message or not, it is entirely with him.

People (the Republican voters) believe what they wanna hear.

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#1597772 24-Jul-2016 16:47

Of the Americans and non Americans i speak to, more favour trump and more do not trust hillary

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#1597777 24-Jul-2016 17:00

I get this too and it genuinely scares me. All the pundits continue to insist that he doesn't have a chance but where have we heard that before? For the record, I don't trust Hillary either, but on the lesser of evils scale she wins hands down.

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