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#2206457 28-Mar-2019 17:54

Rikkitic:

I have no wish to disparage this important event but I find the tone of the FAQ a little off-putting. It seems to be saying 'able-bodied only welcome'. Maybe this has to do with limitations of the site, but to me it reads like people who cannot stand or walk more than short distances are being excluded and no effort is being made to accommodate them. Are wheelchairs allowed at all? The physically disabled often encounter this kind of attitude and it feels a little off to me when efforts are being made to be more inclusive of minorities as a result of the shootings. Should not some effort also be made to include the disabled who may wish to show their support?

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Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2206465 28-Mar-2019 18:11

I didn't read that way.

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#2206466 28-Mar-2019 18:15

Consider risk level. Then evacuation and concealment opportunities. They will probably suggest no prams too.

At least, I would be. They've already cancelled 3 public showings of it and full bag searches tomorrow here.

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#2206468 28-Mar-2019 18:18

Did they update the FAQ or am I really going blind? Now they talk about disability drop-off point and wheelchair access. I don't know how I could have missed that. Did I? I am as certain as I can be that it wasn't there earlier when I read the FAQ. It now sounds okay to me. If I did just somehow miss two paragraphs completely, then I apologise for my comment.

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#2207034 29-Mar-2019 13:29

Prime Minister’s speech at the National Remembrance Service

E rau rangatira mā, e ngā reo, e ngā mana

Tēnā koutou katoa

(I acknowledge amongst us today our distinguished leaders, speakers and those who bear authority)

Ngāi Tahu Whānui, tēnā koutou

(My greetings to the whole of Ngāi Tahu)

E papaki tū ana ngā tai o maumahara ki runga o Ōtautahi

(The tides of remembrance flow over Christchurch today)

Haere mai tātou me te aroha,

(So let us gather with love)

Me te rangimārie, ki te whānau nei,

(In peace, for this family)

E ora mārire ai anō rātau,

(So that they may truly live again)

E ora mārire ai anō, tātou katoa.

(So that we all may truly live again)

We gather here, 14 days on from our darkest of hours.

In the days that have followed the terrorist attack on the 15th of March, we have often found ourselves without words.

What words adequately express the pain and suffering of 50 men, women and children lost, and so many injured?

What words capture the anguish of our Muslim community being the target of hatred and violence?

What words express the grief of a city that has already known so much pain?

I thought there were none. And then I came here and was met with this simple greeting.

Asalamu Aleykum. Peace be upon you.

They were simple words, repeated by community leaders who witnessed the loss of their friends and loved ones.

Simple words, whispered by the injured from their hospital beds.

Simple words, spoken by the bereaved and everyone I met who has been affected by this attack.

Asalamu Aleykum. Peace be upon you.

They were words spoken by a community who, in the face of hate and violence, had every right to express anger but instead opened their doors for all of us to grieve with them.

And so we say to those who have lost the most, we may not have always had the words.

We may have left flowers, performed the haka, sung songs or simply embraced.

But even when we had no words, we still heard yours, and they have left us humbled and they have left us united.

Over the past two weeks we have heard the stories of those impacted by this terrorist attack.

They were stories of bravery.

They were stories of those who were born here, grew up here, or who had made New Zealand their home.

Who had sought refuge, or sought a better life for themselves or their families.

These stories, they now form part of our collective memories.

They will remain with us forever.

They are us.

But with that memory comes a responsibility.

A responsibility to be the place that we wish to be.

A place that is diverse, that is welcoming, that is kind and compassionate. Those values represent the very best of us.

But even the ugliest of viruses can exist in places they are not welcome.

Racism exists, but it is not welcome here.

An assault on the freedom of any one of us who practices their faith or religion, is not welcome here.

Violence, and extremism in all its forms, is not welcome here.

And over the last two weeks we have shown that, you have shown that, in your actions.

From the thousands at vigils to the 95 year old man who took four buses to attend a rally because he couldn’t sleep from the sadness of seeing the hurt and suffering of others.

Our challenge now is to make the very best of us, a daily reality.

Because we are not immune to the viruses of hate, of fear, of other. We never have been.

But we can be the nation that discovers the cure.

And so to each of us as we go from here, we have work to do, but do not leave the job of combatting hate to the Government alone.

We each hold the power, in our words and in our actions, in our daily acts of kindness. Let that be the legacy of the 15th of March.

To be the nation we believe ourselves to be.

To the global community who have joined us today, who reached out to embrace New Zealand, and our Muslim community, to all of those who have gathered here today, we say thank you.

And we also ask that the condemnation of violence and terrorism turns now to a collective response. The world has been stuck in a vicious cycle of extremism breeding extremism and it must end.

We cannot confront these issues alone, none of us can. But the answer to them lies in a simple concept that is not bound by domestic borders, that isn’t based on ethnicity, power base or even forms of governance.

The answer lies in our humanity.

But for now, we will remember those who have left this place.

We will remember the first responders who gave so much of themselves to save others.

We will remember the tears of our nation, and the new resolve we have formed.

And we remember, that ours is a home that does not and cannot claim perfection. But we can strive to be true to the words embedded in our national anthem

Men of every creed and race,

Gather here before Thy face,

Asking Thee to bless this place

God defend our free land

From dissension, envy, hate

And corruption, guard our state

Make our country good and great

God Defend New Zealand

Tātou Tātou

Asalamu Aleykum

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#2207073 29-Mar-2019 13:43

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/111645738/jacinda-ardern-we-will-remember-the-tears-of-our-nation

Pm Speech

Governor General was also very impressive. NZ can feel very proud of the whole event.

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#2208130 31-Mar-2019 13:24

He who shall not be named is complaining...

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#2208132 31-Mar-2019 13:27

I'm almost disappointed they decided to make it a story. Unwanted by public airtime.

Don't see stories about all the other inmates who lodge daily complaints thinking their crime means they have rights vs privileges.

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#2208134 31-Mar-2019 13:33

freitasm:

He who shall not be named is complaining...

I suspect that his main grievance is that he has no access to newspapers, radio or TV.

The whole purpose of the slaughter was to get publicity, and he isn't being allowed to enjoy seeing his name and his "crusade" all over the media.

It's tough being a narcissistic mass murderer. 😕

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#2208166 31-Mar-2019 14:33

Oblivian:
I'm almost disappointed they decided to make it a story. Unwanted by public airtime.

Don't see stories about all the other inmates who lodge daily complaints thinking their crime means they have rights vs privileges.

Not wanting to go OT but Arthur Taylor got a whole lot of media for his efforts while behind bars.
But I quite like seeing the articles as I do hope he has a soul destroying remainder of his life in solidarity confinement.
There is no way he will be put in general population as in all likelihood he would be murdered. Same reason why visitors would not be allowed either.
Anything to make his life as unpleasant as possible within the confines of the law is perfectly acceptable to me.

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#2208167 31-Mar-2019 14:35

freitasm: He who shall not be named is complaining...

Not worthy of comment. He belongs in a black hole.

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#2208180 31-Mar-2019 15:19

Rikkitic:

freitasm: He who shall not be named is complaining...

Not worthy of comment. He belongs in a black hole.

So does anyone who takes someones life regardless whether its one or 50 people slain.

They all have rights in this country and denying them this is quite astonishing. The law applies equally to us all, and if it doesnt it will become an ever increasingly dangerous place.

Denying this person certain items in prison for his safety is quite different and is understandable.

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#2208233 31-Mar-2019 16:10

Bluntj:

So does anyone who takes someones life regardless whether its one or 50 people slain.

They all have rights in this country and denying them this is quite astonishing. The law applies equally to us all, and if it doesnt it will become an ever increasingly dangerous place.

Denying this person certain items in prison for his safety is quite different and is understandable.

Maybe you can become his visitor buddy since you are so concerned for his rights.

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#2208282 31-Mar-2019 17:08

Bluntj:

Denying this person certain items in prison for his safety is quite different and is understandable.

And this is exactly what the warden is saying. Items have been denied for his safety.

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#2208288 31-Mar-2019 18:08

Who the hell would want to visit him?

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