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#1664457 6-Nov-2016 07:39

What do you mean "attention seeking"????

Of course he's been "attention seeking" when he's been promoting various causes, he'll continue to be "attention seeking" now he's launched a political party. That's what politicians do.

Your comment about his relationship with the media reads like Trumpist conspiracy theory.

If you're going to keep slagging him, please come up with something substantial.

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#1664458 6-Nov-2016 07:43

I would rank him with Trump, Clinton, Craig and 99% of Australian politicians. Ultimately he will add nothing of value.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1664463 6-Nov-2016 08:00

MikeB4: I would rank him with Trump, Clinton, Craig and 99% of Australian politicians. Ultimately he will add nothing of value.

Goodness gracious. I don't know whether to laugh or cry - on one hand he's like a future POTUS, next he's like Colin Craig?

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#1664475 6-Nov-2016 08:31

Fred99:
MikeB4: I would rank him with Trump, Clinton, Craig and 99% of Australian politicians. Ultimately he will add nothing of value.

Goodness gracious. I don't know whether to laugh or cry - on one hand he's like a future POTUS, next he's like Colin Craig?

See you do know

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1664480 6-Nov-2016 09:09

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Fred99:

MikeB4: I would rank him with Trump, Clinton, Craig and 99% of Australian politicians. Ultimately he will add nothing of value.

Goodness gracious. I don't know whether to laugh or cry - on one hand he's like a future POTUS, next he's like Colin Craig?

See you do know

Well, I'll wager that if "TOP" fails and GM heads away to find another mission, his fall won't be remotely close to the cringeworthy debacle Craig created for himself.

He's also not likely to attack entire races or religions, and I doubt there'll be surprise video of him doing the locker-room thing I've been told all men do.

I think Morgan's got a small chance. We haven't seen policies yet, nor who else may get on board with him.

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#1664491 6-Nov-2016 09:50

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MikeB4: I don't care if a candidate is left, right or centre. It's the quality of the candidate and their policies that interest me.
I am not sure if Morgan is genuine or just on an ego trip.

I'm not at all sure it could be just an ego trip.

Something like the cat vs native wildlife thing, he was on a mission, and a good mission because whatever cat-lovers say and no matter how much they deny, cats do wreak havoc. Not just cats - the whole situation is complex, but NZ native wildlife would be better off if all cats were eliminated completely, so killing or at least eliminating cats is quite a good idea, just very unpopular.

If he'd got up and said "Hey cat lovers, please be nice to our native wildlife, have your cat neutered, and keep it inside at night" - I really deeply believe that nobody would have taken any notice of him at all.

He knew he was going to cop it personally, he knew he was right, so he did it anyway. Telling people truths they don't want to hear actually tales some guts, and perhaps demonstrates that it wasn't an ego trip.

He is simply on a mission to boost his own ego and keep his name in the limelight. He isnt a politician and despite what he says, NZ is far from being broken and we don t need him. He should spend his money charitably elsewhere rather than trying to stir up political trouble.

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#1664493 6-Nov-2016 10:00

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Geektastic: Aside from getting rich courtesy of his son, has he ever done anything of note that is relevant to running a country?

You should probably say courtesy of Fairfax, otherwise you better start degrading all the mum and dad investors for riding Rod Dury's coattails. In all seriousness this man has a lot more in common with Kiwis than you all make out. He has been talking about equality for years, and he brings a new perspective to politics. Did any of you watch the 15 minute press conference? The first 3 minutes was him introducing the concept, the rest was reporters asking questions. He/his party will not stand as electorate MP's, they will get a 5% outright or go home.

I suspect he may have had more to do with the success of Trademe than his son.

Sure Sam came up with the idea and started the website but there was nothing special about Trademe back in 1999 (I was one of the first 50 to sign up) and while the timing was right you still need real financial backing, the right connections and management/vision (or balls) to get somewhere. GM would have provided that or pointed Sam in the right direction

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#1664494 6-Nov-2016 10:11

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NZ is far from being broken and we don t need him. He should spend his money charitably elsewhere rather than trying to stir up political trouble.

So, NZ is close to perfect, Dear Leader should never be criticised, people who disagree with present policy shouldn't "stir up political trouble"?

That's 100% Pure magic. I must remember to not even bother to vote in the next election, just in case my vote might make a difference, and upset the status quo.

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#1664495 6-Nov-2016 10:22

Fred99:

Pumpedd:

NZ is far from being broken and we don t need him. He should spend his money charitably elsewhere rather than trying to stir up political trouble.

So, NZ is close to perfect, Dear Leader should never be criticised, people who disagree with present policy shouldn't "stir up political trouble"?

That's 100% Pure magic. I must remember to not even bother to vote in the next election, just in case my vote might make a difference, and upset the status quo.

NZ is not broken

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1664504 6-Nov-2016 10:44

MikeB4:

NZ is not broken

I'm struggling to respond to that sweeping generalisation of a statement. I'll quote GM, from the front page of hos TOP website:

"We seek to improve the well-being of New Zealand families – now and into the future."

For one reason or another, be it wealth/wealth disparity, criminality, environment, education, healthcare, housing, I think there's always "room for improvement"

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#1664509 6-Nov-2016 11:01

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Fred99:

Pumpedd:

NZ is far from being broken and we don t need him. He should spend his money charitably elsewhere rather than trying to stir up political trouble.

So, NZ is close to perfect, Dear Leader should never be criticised, people who disagree with present policy shouldn't "stir up political trouble"?

That's 100% Pure magic. I must remember to not even bother to vote in the next election, just in case my vote might make a difference, and upset the status quo.

NZ is not broken

Child poverty, beggers in the streets, families living in cars, unaffordable house prices, rivers too polluted to swim, near P-epidemic ... etc

If that ain't broken, I'd love to hear your thoughts on what broken would look like?

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#1664519 6-Nov-2016 11:32

Fred99:

MikeB4:

NZ is not broken

I'm struggling to respond to that sweeping generalisation of a statement. I'll quote GM, from the front page of hos TOP website:

"We seek to improve the well-being of New Zealand families – now and into the future."

For one reason or another, be it wealth/wealth disparity, criminality, environment, education, healthcare, housing, I think there's always "room for improvement"

Only thing he seeks is to improve his own ego.

Nothing is ever perfect, but NZ is not broken in comparison to most of the western world. Sure there are issues that need addressing as there will always be as the dollar will never go far enough. Considering the Earthquakes which may have bankrupted some countries, the GFC and several other factors this country is outperforming most and perhaps is a victim of its own success with immigration and kiwis returning home in record numbers adding stress to things like health care and infrastructure.

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#1664531 6-Nov-2016 12:24

That Stuff poll will be ruffling some feathers. 58:42 saying they'd vote for GM

I don't need a lecture on the lack of any statistical validity of such polls, but I'm trying to think of any potentially "disruptive" new entrant to NZ politics who'd have ever been able to get well into double digits on any similar poll over the past 30 years or so.

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#1664532 6-Nov-2016 12:25

Fred99:

That Stuff poll will be ruffling some feathers. 58:42 saying they'd vote for GM

I don't need a lecture on the lack of any statistical validity of such polls, but I'm trying to think of any potentially "disruptive" new entrant to NZ politics who'd have ever been able to get well into double digits on any similar poll over the past 30 years or so.

Meh...voters. Half of them are below average intelligence.

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