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#2764118 21-Aug-2021 09:26

we've pardoned everyone. except the ones we have not

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/fall-of-afghanistan-taliban-execute-police-chief-despite-promising-no-retribution/NUIBXKRAVBPZABZSM7SGTWQR2M/

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#2764139 21-Aug-2021 10:00

Batman:

we've pardoned everyone. except the ones we have not

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/fall-of-afghanistan-taliban-execute-police-chief-despite-promising-no-retribution/NUIBXKRAVBPZABZSM7SGTWQR2M/

I'm cautious about believing that story right now, it's not been covered by Al Jazeera.

(I'm not keen on viewing snuff movie content, so not keen about looking at many of the so-called "news media" covering it).

Also not sure if creating more panic is in the interest of the Afghan people.

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#2764298 21-Aug-2021 13:34

In almost every coup there is going to be casaulties, and whilst I don't agree with it, it's a little par for the course. Things are likely getting worse before they get better. I also think it's a matter of filtering where and how you get your news. Not sure what the most trustworthy source is, but the Al-Jazeera outlet 'seems' to have an OK handle on what's happening.

As I said originally, what choice was there really? The US can't stay there forever, nor should they even if they could. I guess we can hope they stick mostly to their public statements around what the future looks like.

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#2764378 21-Aug-2021 15:29

networkn:

the Al-Jazeera outlet 'seems' to have an OK handle on what's happening.

Yep. It's certainly not all doves and olive leaves:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/20/taliban-un-report-afghanistan-door-to-door-revenge

Russia also emphasised on Thursday that a resistance movement was forming in the Panjshir Valley, led by deposed Vice President Amrullah Saleh and Ahmad Massoud, the son of a slain anti-Taliban fighter.

“The Taliban doesn’t control the whole territory of Afghanistan,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.

In the Panjshir Valley northeast of Kabul, Ahmad Massoud, the son of Afghanistan’s most famed anti-Taliban fighter Ahmad Shah Massoud, said he was “ready to follow in his father’s footsteps”.

“But we need more weapons, more ammunition and more supplies,” Massoud wrote in the Washington Post newspaper.

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#2764447 21-Aug-2021 17:06

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/20/taliban-responsible-for-massacre-of-nine-hazara-men-amnesty

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#2764593 21-Aug-2021 23:17

Batman: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/20/taliban-responsible-for-massacre-of-nine-hazara-men-amnesty

These killings occured July 4th to July 6th in a village in a district of Ghazni province.

The article states a villager asked an unspecified taliban why these atrocities and the unspecified taliban replied it is a time of war or words to that effect.

The Taliban entered Kabul August 16th and declared that the war is over. One can only hope the IEA issued very clear orders to regional forces at that time.

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#2764596 21-Aug-2021 23:27

On the plus side Hazara Shi'ites in Kabul held the festivities of Ashura after IEA forces entered the city and there was no reported interference in those activities with IEA forces providing security and assurances.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/2021/08/19/ashura-processions-take-place-in-afghanistan-amid-taliban-takeover/

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#2764647 22-Aug-2021 09:22

Just saw a picture of the latest Taliban leader returning from exile and meeting up with his cronies.

This bunch would have looked right at home with the Spanish Inquisition. Religious nut jobs from the Middle Ages but with AK47's instead if pikes and swords.

If anybody thinks this is going to turn out well for most Afghans you are sadly deluding yourselves.

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#2764798 22-Aug-2021 12:23

SJB:

Just saw a picture of the latest Taliban leader returning from exile and meeting up with his cronies.

This bunch would have looked right at home with the Spanish Inquisition. Religious nut jobs from the Middle Ages but with AK47's instead if pikes and swords.

If anybody thinks this is going to turn out well for most Afghans you are sadly deluding yourselves.

Well look at all the women's representatives that the Taliban have in their leadership. :-)

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#2764879 22-Aug-2021 14:25

ezbee:

Well look at all the women's representatives that the Taliban have in their leadership. :-)

women will be allowed to do anything they're allowed to do

except they are not allowed to do anything

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/old-video-of-taliban-fi ghters-laughing-about-women-politicians-goes-viral-101629252536284.html

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#2764977 22-Aug-2021 17:10

ezbee: Well look at all the women's representatives that the Taliban have in their leadership. :-)

That's correct. There are no women on the IEA leadership council. It's possible women will be appointed in the government to be announced:

The Hindu: “The Islamic Emirate doesn't want women to be victims” Samangani said, using the militants' term for Afghanistan. “They should be in government structure according to Shariah law.” He added, “The structure of government is not fully clear, but based on experience, there should be a fully Islamic leadership and all sides should join.”

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#2764980 22-Aug-2021 17:13

CGTN interviewer asks spokesperson Shaheen some relevant questions in this long interview:

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#2764991 22-Aug-2021 17:32

Kiwi journalist Charlotte Bellis interviews high ranked Abdul Qahar Balkhi on plans for government:

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#2765039 22-Aug-2021 19:21

The Sun UK newspaper (sometimes not the most accurate source) reported July 14th reproducing a letter purportedly from the IEA's Cultural Commission:

Sun UK: "All imams and mullahs in captured areas should provide the Taliban with a list of girls above 15 and widows under 45 to be married to Taliban fighters," the letter reportedly reads, issued in the name of the Taliban's Cultural Commission.

It's not clear if this applied to one recently captured region in relation to one taliban fighting group only. This occured prior to IEA forces entering Kabul and declaring the war is over. Some Islamic groups have different rules for war and peace. Under current international standards involuntary marriage would be a war crime. The letter is reproduced in Arabic in the linked article.

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