Christopher Luxon, New Zealand Prime Minister 2023

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#3196029 15-Feb-2024 21:20

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/509283/kiwirail-considers-buying-second-hand-ships-for-cook-strait-ferry-service >> KiwiRail may end up buying second hand ferries instead...just none are available.

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#3196356 16-Feb-2024 15:37

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/509236/construction-costs-building-consent-reform-will-bring-clarity-and-consistency-chris-penk

Is this related to work that I understand that was being done to update the RMA, or totally separate/unrelated?

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#3196361 16-Feb-2024 15:46

quickymart:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/509236/construction-costs-building-consent-reform-will-bring-clarity-and-consistency-chris-penk

Is this related to work that I understand that was being done to update the RMA, or totally separate/unrelated?

It's the building code, which is how buildings are constructed, rather than the RMA, which is how resources, including land, is used.

TL/DR: It's allowing the use of substitute materials of equivalent performance (eg elephant board instead of gib) and reducing some of the processes in building consents.

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#3196421 16-Feb-2024 16:11

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sen8or:

Way I look at it, if I work to improve my value proposition for the good of the company, invariably the company will reward me. If it doesn't, then as a worker I am free to pursue somewhere else that will. An employer / business owner however does not have that luxury.

A business always has the option of exiting the employment relationship and employing a different person with better skills who can generate more value. Whether the value the new person generates is more than the cost of doing either upskilling the employee or redeploying the head count is part of the arithmetic of running a business. Ultimately employment is a value based relationship not a personal one.

But thats not really comparing apples and apples. Employees only have to give notice for the period that is contained in their employment agreement (1, 2, 4 weeks etc), for an employer to try to end an employee relationship that isn't working is extremely difficult, filled with fish-hooks and gotchas that will trip up even the experienced well intentioned employer and its off to employee disputes you go, good bye $20k in the blink of an eye.

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#3196426 16-Feb-2024 16:16

sen8or:

Handle9:

A business always has the option of exiting the employment relationship and employing a different person with better skills who can generate more value. Whether the value the new person generates is more than the cost of doing either upskilling the employee or redeploying the head count is part of the arithmetic of running a business. Ultimately employment is a value based relationship not a personal one.

But thats not really comparing apples and apples. Employees only have to give notice for the period that is contained in their employment agreement (1, 2, 4 weeks etc), for an employer to try to end an employee relationship that isn't working is extremely difficult, filled with fish-hooks and gotchas that will trip up even the experienced well intentioned employer and its off to employee disputes you go, good bye $20k in the blink of an eye.

All of which is entirely reasonable. The employer is in business and gets the rewards so takes more risk and has more obligations. The employee trades time for money, it's a very different risk and reward.

Getting rid of people through redundancy or performance management isn't all that hard, it just requires a degree of competence and diligence from the employer. If they aren't capable of running an employment process they shouldn't be in business. If they play silly games they win silly prizes.

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#3196671 17-Feb-2024 08:25

Handle9:

It's the building code, which is how buildings are constructed, rather than the RMA, which is how resources, including land, is used.

TL/DR: It's allowing the use of substitute materials of equivalent performance (eg elephant board instead of gib) and reducing some of the processes in building consents.

Handled well, that is a good move.

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#3196754 17-Feb-2024 12:34

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/02/17/outcomes-deliverables-luxons-business-like-language-unpacked/ >> unpacking Luxon's business-speak and what he really means.

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#3196782 17-Feb-2024 14:10

He's also promised key performance indicators (KPIs) for his ministerial team and consequences for poor performance.

"The KPIs will be published because I want New Zealand to understand what we're striving to achieve," Luxon said.

Ok, it's said then. Let's see the results. Show us these KPIs. Is there a list of "deliverables" and a timeline?

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#3196876 17-Feb-2024 20:46

quickymart:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/02/17/outcomes-deliverables-luxons-business-like-language-unpacked/ >> unpacking Luxon's business-speak and what he really means.

Thats good and transparent. What date(s) will the KPI's and targets be published?

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#3196878 17-Feb-2024 21:17

tdgeek:

quickymart:

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/02/17/outcomes-deliverables-luxons-business-like-language-unpacked/ >> unpacking Luxon's business-speak and what he really means.

Thats good and transparent. What date(s) will the KPI's and targets be published?

About as long as Jacinda took to build all those houses..etcetcetcetc

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#3196888 17-Feb-2024 23:00

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About as long as Jacinda took to build all those houses..etcetcetcetc

Whaboutism is an easy escape.

The question is about the PM Chris Luxon. The previous government has no relevance on this topic.

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#3196897 18-Feb-2024 07:45

freitasm:

Bluntj:

About as long as Jacinda took to build all those houses..etcetcetcetc

Whaboutism is an easy escape.

The question is about the PM Chris Luxon. The previous government has no relevance on this topic.

Expect more here https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350183480/nz-politics-live-hipkins-luxon-set-state-their-cases

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon is set to give his state of the nation speech on Sunday.

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#3196912 18-Feb-2024 09:46

freitasm:

Bluntj:

About as long as Jacinda took to build all those houses..etcetcetcetc

Whaboutism is an easy escape.

The question is about the PM Chris Luxon. The previous government has no relevance on this topic.

I would have thought valid comparisons to Luxons performance were relevent.

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#3196921 18-Feb-2024 10:24

@Bluntj:

freitasm:

Bluntj:

About as long as Jacinda took to build all those houses..etcetcetcetc

Whaboutism is an easy escape.

The question is about the PM Chris Luxon. The previous government has no relevance on this topic.

I would have thought valid comparisons to Luxons performance were relevent.

A comparison would be relevant if you provided facts for comparison, not a cheap shot.

Your post lacked content and missed the point.

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#3196976 18-Feb-2024 10:51

Listening to the PM's "State of Nation" speech.

So far (20 minutes in) lots of "We will fix this" but none of "We will fixt this doing [action] by [date]"

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