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#1640354 25-Sep-2016 20:47

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Fred99: Of course he's just trying to make some $$$ selling his book. He's clearly old-school republican - look at his ludicrous young man hair - on old man head, and choice of ties.

Ah the perils of judging political affiliation or anything else really by appearances!

Youth forever is a standard American look. Maybe it looks better off camera.

He ran for the democratic nomination in Maryland, 2006, but no cigar.

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#1640355 25-Sep-2016 20:47

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Sideface:

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Fred99:

Trump has issued a warning that "Clinton is going to rig the presidential debate by using facts", saying "it's a disgrace".

He also warned that unless CNN, which is hosting the debate, promises to forbid the use of facts, he might pull out of Monday’s contest. "I'm only going to debate if I’m treated fairly, and facts don’t treat me fairly."

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I agree. I hate facts. Facts are the disdain of society. The truth should really be outlawed. I prefer swept back hairdos and fake tan. Wow. We are the most intelligent lifeforms that has emerged from Planet Earth??? ;-)

Just remember that Trump Facts are much more flexible, spontaneous and temporary than boring old Clinton Facts.

LOL yep your right. If he does win he will be hobbled by GOP, what a farce. He would not get any power so his dumb ass ideas wont matter. The US will be the laughing stock, which bodes well for everyone else. I can see China ramping up their world presence.

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#1640496 26-Sep-2016 09:38

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Fred99: Of course he's just trying to make some $$$ selling his book. He's clearly old-school republican - look at his ludicrous young man hair - on old man head, and choice of ties.

Ah the perils of judging political affiliation or anything else really by appearances!

Youth forever is a standard American look. Maybe it looks better off camera.

He ran for the democratic nomination in Maryland, 2006, but no cigar.

And only about 1% support, which would really not endear a narcissist to the D establishment.

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#1641016 27-Sep-2016 01:03

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NYTimes editorial on Trump is good reading

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/why-donald-trump-should-not-be-president.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-top-region&region=opinion-c-col-top-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-top-region&_r=0

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#1641027 27-Sep-2016 06:51

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The pen is mightier than the sword. I have read equally convincing arguments on why trump should be president (well why Clinton should not be president rather). It will be close.

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#1641031 27-Sep-2016 07:31

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Interesting article by a Trump supporting American living in NZ. There is also a link to a Clinton supporters comments

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/84662860/why-im-voting-for-trump

What this article shows is what we see in NZ. The incumbent Govt has an advantage. Know them, they are now experienced in Govt, unsure what new people from the other party will be like, lets keep status quo. But a time comes when the venerable slogan comes out, "Time for a change" Thats where this article is going, and also to lessen Trumps antics, to being time for a change, lets get stuff done now, and he happens to be rough around the edges. If his campaign goes down the track of "sorry, I can be a dick, Im not a politician, but I want to fix this country", its not hard to see that get traction. Obama was seen as the next big thing, but thats faded over time. Clinton is Obama 2.0, so given what I see is the Americans being disillusioned by the current Govt, thats a pro Trump gain.

We all have an opinion on Trump, but if you put his stupid antics aside for a moment, a win is very possible. If he came out with a heart felt apology, blaming that on his personality, his desire to get this country fixed, and he is not a real politician, that in itself could give hm 5 points in the race, easily. His only negative is his antics, if he sorted that, well....

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#1641040 27-Sep-2016 08:09

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Trump ain't gonna apologize. Which gives Clinton's her only hope.

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#1641043 27-Sep-2016 08:26

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John Diaz's opinion piece linked in the above post sums up things pretty well.

If I were voting in the US election I think I'd be voting for Trump, as much as I think he's a **** head I think he'll be far better for the USA than Hillary, even if that means just doing less damage then she will.

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#1641046 27-Sep-2016 08:40

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joker97: Trump ain't gonna apologize. Which gives Clinton's her only hope.

I think he will at the start of the election campaign. His apology will be a small but clear backdown on some of

his attitudes and statements, blaming that on his desire to achive, and to get things done. be a top move if he does

that, which is ONLY about marketing and positioning

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#1641047 27-Sep-2016 08:45

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Technofreak:

John Diaz's opinion piece linked in the above post sums up things pretty well.

If I were voting in the US election I think I'd be voting for Trump, as much as I think he's a **** head I think he'll be far better for the USA than Hillary, even if that means just doing less damage then she will.

Im thinking that way as well.

That he has acted as a D head is only one part of the equation.

Obama is seen as a no go anymore

Clinton is Obama

Time for a change

Time for a mover and shaker

Lets make America great again

The antics can be softened, a mild backdown. Because he just wants to fix this country now Everyone loves an apology of sorts.

And everyone knows he does not have unbridled power. In the real world, his antics or out there ideas will be diluted by the GOP.

So, there is much less to dislike, many have got to focussed on his antics, there is a lot more to it than that

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#1641062 27-Sep-2016 09:08

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One thing I've learned in this presidential race is the fact that just how left wing and biased the media is in the US. Clinton News Networks (CNN) Don Lemon is a prime example of biased left wing media when he interviewed sheriff David Clarke. When Lemon wasn't liking what the sheriff was saying about BLM he would either changed the course of the debate or go to a ad break. Mr Lemon uses the same tact with others that don't preach what CNN is pushing as their agenda.

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#1641088 27-Sep-2016 10:01

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Anyone gonna count how many times he waves his little pinky in the air during the debate?

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#1641099 27-Sep-2016 10:16

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cynnicallemon:

One thing I've learned in this presidential race is the fact that just how left wing and biased the media is in the US. Clinton News Networks (CNN) Don Lemon is a prime example of biased left wing media when he interviewed sheriff David Clarke. When Lemon wasn't liking what the sheriff was saying about BLM he would either changed the course of the debate or go to a ad break. Mr Lemon uses the same tact with others that don't preach what CNN is pushing as their agenda.

Standard practice, for both sides, and not just in the US

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#1641101 27-Sep-2016 10:19

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Zippity:

Anyone gonna count how many times he waves his little pinky in the air during the debate?

I'd like to see him deflect the facts or questions by dodging the topic completely and going nowhere. It won't be a debate, just name calling and strategem.

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#1641114 27-Sep-2016 10:36

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Trump has repeatedly revealed himself as a pathological liar and bully. He is ignorant, unintelligent, unstable, narcissistic, and probably certifiable. He makes extravagant claims and promises that cannot possibly be realised. He has a poor grasp of reality. He is impulsive, uncontrolled, and a dishonest cheat. Anyone who could even consider voting for him needs a reality check. This is not a person who should be president of anything.

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