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  #2955509 17-Aug-2022 11:51
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[Musk will] be hoping to convince the Judge to order a reduction in price due to the issues about how many "real" users there are...

 

 

I doubt the judge will have scope to set the price.

 

Rather he will be there to assess whether the contract as signed is enforceable.

 

 

Right. But I expect that misleading a purchaser about what they're buying (i.e. how many "real" users you have) would invalidate a contract. At which point the parties are free to negotiate a new contract, at a lower price.

 

 

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  #2955630 17-Aug-2022 15:57
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kingdragonfly: Regarding the Facebook / Meta AI bot, it here's a related article called "It took just one weekend for Meta's new AI Chatbot to become racist.

 

Really? That outcome was a foregone conclusion - Microsoft proved it years ago. Just why Zuckerberg thought Meta would achieve any different outcome than Microsoft is a mystery.

 

frankv:

 

Right. But I expect that misleading a purchaser about what they're buying (i.e. how many "real" users you have) would invalidate a contract. At which point the parties are free to negotiate a new contract, at a lower price.

 

 

He has to prove that both a) they deliberately misled him; and that b) had he known the truth it would have materially affected whether he would have proceeded with the contract.

 

This would be hard to argue given that he claimed he was buying twitter because it was full of bots (and he wanted to get rid of them) and because he claimed their real user count was misleading and threw around figures like 90% bots long before he suddenly decided that was a problem. I think your expectation is off the mark.

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  #2955648 17-Aug-2022 16:47
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Musk didn't do due diligance.

As anyone who has purchased a house with an unconditional agreement knows, buyer's remorse is expensive.

Complaining that "I didn't know the house is in a flood area" won't garner any sympathy from the judge.

Even less if you before you signed the contract you tweated the owner "Wow there looks like there's been a lot of flood damage. Good thing I can fix it."

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  #2956068 18-Aug-2022 14:59
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Time magazine : Elon Musk is convinced he's the future. We need to look beyond him

Elon Musk is a singular visionary driving humanity toward a better future—or at least that’s what he and his admirers want us to believe. For the past two decades, supporters and news outlets have praised him for the bold narratives he’s woven around Tesla and SpaceX, and by extension allowed him to evade scrutiny and become the world’s richest man. Any time Musk sends a tweet, you can check his replies to see the devotion of his millions of followers.

As his profile has been elevated by relentless media attention, Musk has become the figure everyone was looking for: a powerful man who sold the fantasy that faith in the combined power of technology and the market could change the world without needing a role for the government. (Just don’t talk about the billions in subsidies that kept his companies going over the years.)
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  #2960360 28-Aug-2022 09:05
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Yahoo: Ex-Twitter security chief's whistleblower complaint is a 'godsend' for Elon Musk

Twitter’s (TWTR) ex-security chief has filed a whistleblower complaint with claims that, if proven true, could make it easier for Elon Musk to walk away from his $44 billion deal to buy the social media company.

Peiter “Mudge” Zatko, a widely respected hacker who was fired in January, sent a 200-page complaint to federal officials accusing Twitter’s top executives of violating laws and regulations by covering up lax security, and eschewing resources to fully understand its prevalence of fake accounts.

The issue of fake accounts plays a central role in the legal battle between Musk and Twitter, which is suing him in an attempt to force him to go through with the deal.

The whistleblower claims regarding fake accounts present a considerable tide change in the lawsuit, set for trial in Delaware Chancery Court beginning Oct. 17.

Prior to the claims, some legal experts had predicted that the seller-friendly merger agreement would tip the case in Twitter’s favor, with Delaware's Chancellor ordering Musk to go through with the deal.
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  #2968102 14-Sep-2022 14:18
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Elon actually deleted this tweet. Maybe he's starting to learn about posting baseless accusations.

FirstPost: Elon Musk weighs on theory of Hans Niemann using 'vibrating anal beads' in Chess Championship

After being awarded the Grandmaster title by FIDE, 19-year-old American chess master Hans Niemann is currently the source of the biggest scandal in chess since 2006. This is after the American chess player has been accused of cheating ever since the world champion Magnus Carlsen called it quits to the $500,000 Sinquefield Cup, after losing a game to the 19-year-old on 4 September.

Even many theories are making rounds on the internet that says Hans has cheated in the tournament using wireless anal beads, which aid him by vibrating the correct moves. Now, jumping on the bandwagon, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has weighed on the conspiracy theory.

Taking it to his Twitter account, Chief Engineer at SpaceX suggested that the top chess player has cheated using vibrating anal breading.
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  #2968104 14-Sep-2022 14:24
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In case you're confused, Elon is still trying to back out of the Twitter deal.

NZ time 14 Sept morning.

CNBC: Twitter shareholders vote to approve Elon Musk’s bid to buy the company

Twitter shareholders voted [at NZ time 14 Sept morning] to approve Elon Musk’s $44 billion bid to buy the company and take it private.

The vote comes as Musk seeks to scrap the deal...

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  #2968107 14-Sep-2022 14:45
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kingdragonfly: Elon actually deleted this tweet. Maybe he's starting to learn about posting baseless accusations.

FirstPost: Elon Musk weighs on theory of Hans Niemann using 'vibrating anal beads' in Chess Championship

 

Someone seriously needs to sue this guy for defamation. The payout would be enormous, given the reach of any defamatory or libellous statement that Musk makes.

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  #2968109 14-Sep-2022 15:11
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Kyanar:

 

Someone seriously needs to sue this guy for defamation. The payout would be enormous, given the reach of any defamatory or libellous statement that Musk makes.

 

 

Someone tried. He lost.

 

 




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  #2968115 14-Sep-2022 15:36
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Folks should just ignore this petulant child.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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  #2970991 21-Sep-2022 15:18
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As a rule, all that people tried to sell me as "highly dynamic" in my professional life was nothing but nimble ruthlessness towards those who really thought twice about a matter. These guys were predominantly overpaid flash in the pan of alleged think tanks, who always ran away when it came to realisation and perseverance. What was announced and established in a dazzling and glittering way was then later secretly and quietly disposed of again.

 

However, I had also always wondered which majesties had brought them into our company in the first place?




     

  • Qui nihil scit, omnia credere debet.
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  • In effect we have everything to hide from someone, and no idea who someone is.

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  #2977363 4-Oct-2022 15:42
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Elon Musk causes outrage with tweet about Russia's Ukraine invasion

 

For someone as undoubtedly smart as he is, I'm gob-smacked by his idea
"Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people."

 

This totally neglects the fact that most people in those areas who would vote for Ukraine have either fled the Russians, or are dead.




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  #2977367 4-Oct-2022 15:47
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Gurezaemon:

 

Elon Musk causes outrage with tweet about Russia's Ukraine invasion

 

For someone as undoubtedly smart as he is, I'm gob-smacked by his idea
"Redo elections of annexed regions under UN supervision. Russia leaves if that is will of the people."

 

This totally neglects the fact that most people in those areas who would vote for Ukraine have either fled the Russians, or are dead.

 

 

There's something cathartic about seeing an Elon Musk tweet responded to with "F-word off is my very diplomatic reply to you" (of course, not censored) from an Ambassador, and just "No." from a sovereign nation's parliament.

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  #2977472 4-Oct-2022 21:10
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I can't comprehend how Musk thought it would be a good idea to post today's tweets.

His involvement with sending star link gear was positive for both him and SpaceX.

 

But today's stuff flips that on its head.

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  #2977500 4-Oct-2022 23:00
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While Ukraine uncovers torture chambers in its advance.
Musk...

 

By all accounts US Government paid top dollar for the Starlink terminals.
They were old model being replaced due to a number of reliability issues ?
A warehouse of product that may have ended up at the dump ?

 

The marketing value of this for starlink global awareness was not small.

 

He wants something ? 

 

Starlink economic model may have some issues.
He needs to get new larger satellites up to stop erosion of speeds and service. 
Launch platform for those is Starship thats not progressing as fast as he needs as well.
Government subsidies for rural services may have more terrestrial competition eating away at it.

 

Maybe German Tesla factory needs low cost energy to melt aluminum for the Gigapress etc too.

 

Or its just he's spending more time under the influence, corroding the world's best brain.

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