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#3353265 12-Mar-2025 17:51

wellygary:

Someone obviously did;t look very hard into Eutalsat though....

All the recent launches of the LEO sats have been atop SpaceX vehicles,:)

Which is not to say that the ESA does not have larger Ariane 5 rockets that could bring up several satellites instead of just one. And I wouldn't necessarily let my ‘opponent’ transport them. Eutelsat is not a start-up, it has been around for decades alongside ESA. And there is Airbus Defense & Space … 😁

There is a difference between being allowed to think economically and having to adapt to the new circumstances and (fortunately) being able to do so. Even if that is initially uneconomical but vital. There is a European Galileo satellite navigation system for a reason as well. If I have to be independent, I have to become independent. This has been on my mind since Trump's first term, „what if the USA …“ and now we have it!

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#3353272 12-Mar-2025 18:50

Tinkerisk: There is a European Galileo satellite navigation system for a reason as well. If I have to be independent, I have to become independent. This has been on my mind since Trump's first term, „what if the USA …“ and now we have it!

I think there'll be a lot of people saying "I toldja so" now. Certainly at the time it was decried as a boondoogle.

And given the instability in the People's Popular Democratic Republic of America I'm sure the countries with access to Gallileo, BeiDou, IRNSS, and similar will be glad they have them.

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#3353274 12-Mar-2025 19:05

https://futurism.com/elon-musk-freaking-out-tesla-craters

The carmaker's CEO Elon Musk has felt the hurt too, wiping out over $120 billion of his net worth since reaching an all-time high late last year. Today alone, Tesla's sliding stock has cost the entrepreneur a whopping $12 billion.

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

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#3353283 12-Mar-2025 19:28

neb:

I think there'll be a lot of people saying "I toldja so" now. Certainly at the time it was decried as a boondoogle.

I agree with you. But not all of them were able to have a private exchange with American Democratic campaign managers in London back in 2015, who had to travel away from the USA to have a clear thought in another corner of the world. 😉

I also used Windows, Google, Palantir and other „nice things“ on a professional base. Then I started to re-think …

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#3353285 12-Mar-2025 19:31

quickymart:

https://futurism.com/elon-musk-freaking-out-tesla-craters

The carmaker's CEO Elon Musk has felt the hurt too, wiping out over $120 billion of his net worth since reaching an all-time high late last year. Today alone, Tesla's sliding stock has cost the entrepreneur a whopping $12 billion.

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

Only the rest to go...

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#3353290 12-Mar-2025 19:56

Popping out to buy a new car in the good old US of A

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#3353291 12-Mar-2025 20:05

Such a great use of taxpayer money 🙄

Maybe poor little Elon's feelings are hurt because he's doing things to make people not like him?

The police can't watch all the dealerships 24 hours a day though - what happened to all "the illegal immigrants" they're meant to be stopping entering the country?!?

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#3353292 12-Mar-2025 20:07

dafman:

Popping out to buy a new car in the good old US of A

Are these policemen or parking guards playing billiards with hands in their pants? 😁

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#3353294 12-Mar-2025 20:32

quickymart: The police can't watch all the dealerships 24 hours a day though - what happened to all "the illegal immigrants" they're meant to be stopping entering the country?!?

I think it's actually a good thing if more US police are moved from arresting people with the wrong skin colour to protecting President Musk's shops.

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#3353295 12-Mar-2025 20:38

That is actually a good point (although having said that I was trying to be sarcastic) but I do agree with what you're saying 🙂

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#3353734 13-Mar-2025 18:29

Flew 39 combat missions in Iraq.
As well as piloting 4 Space Shuttle missions.

Elon with his wealth and megaphone uses it to support the atrocities of the Kremlin

Elon just your regular sad doped up comic book villain, too much ketamine, E, money and power.
Corrosive to your supposed superior brain, its peak long since past.
Visible from his childish actions in Thailand onwards, only got worse.

'With great power comes great responsibility' not his thing.
Empathy, a core aspect of Humanity, with Elon Musk its decidedly absent.

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#3353742 13-Mar-2025 18:54

ezbee:

Flew 39 combat missions in Iraq.
As well as piloting 4 Space Shuttle missions.

Elon with his wealth and megaphone uses it to support the atrocities of the Kremlin

Elon just your regular sad doped up comic book villain, too much ketamine, E, money and power.
Corrosive to your supposed superior brain, its peak long since past.
Visible from his childish actions in Thailand onwards, only got worse.

'With great power comes great responsibility' not his thing.
Empathy, a core aspect of Humanity, with Elon Musk its decidedly absent.

Yep, Elon lost all respect from me with his childish outburst calling one of the divers a sexual pervert after the diver explained that Elon's all singing, all dancing, fancy mini submarine wasn't suitable for the rescue.

Loser, and a very sore loser at that.

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#3353951 14-Mar-2025 14:41

Maybe Musk is taking "go f_ck yourself" literally.

Globally Tesla does not use traditional dealerships like most other car companies. Instead, Tesla owns and operates all of its sales and service centers directly.

Tesla dealers everywhere are not privately owned franchises.

It's similar to Apple's vertically integrated model, running Apple Stores. Fitness Tech (e.g., Peloton) does something similar.

They are owned and operated by Tesla, Inc., the company founded by Elon Musk

The following sounds like criminal fraud by some Tesla outlets (again owned by Tesla Inc) to quickly drain a Canadian government EV rebate pool. In the process, they starved fellow Tesla outlets, from selling rebated Teslas.

Tesla made a suspicious number of rebate requests on last days of Canadian EV incentive: Electrek
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According to a report from the Toronto Star, four Tesla locations claimed to have sold 8,653 electric vehicles in the last three days of the rebate. They filed for $43.1 million in rebates — more than half of the $71.8 million in remaining funds.

Tesla’s location in Quebec City alone filed more than 2,500 rebates in a single day and 4,000 over the weekend. Considering the location can hold only a few hundred cars and that the company needs to have delivered the vehicle to file the rebate, people are suspicious that Tesla could have actually delivered the cars when it says it did.

The suspicious surge in filings from Tesla has resulted in other dealers being stuck without rebates.

The Canadian Automobile Dealers Association (CADA) surveyed its dealers, and it found that they are stuck with 2,295 unreimbursed rebates worth about $10 million.
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Canadian Automobile Dealers Association (CADA) claimed that “Tesla gamed the system.”

Terry Budd, who owns 8 dealerships in Ontario, also doesn’t believe Tesla could have delivered that many vehicles
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#3354102 14-Mar-2025 18:50

Not sure how true this is, but if so... 😀

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#3354126 14-Mar-2025 21:37

kingdragonfly: Globally Tesla does not use traditional dealerships like most other car companies. Instead, Tesla owns and operates all of its sales and service centers directly. Tesla dealers everywhere are not privately owned franchises.

The original reason for this was that in the totally-not-corrupt US it was impossible for Tesla to sell cars to the public due to rent-seeking laws around car dealerships. As a result Tesla were forced to build their own not-really-dealership system from the ground up where you can look at a Tesla in a showroom but can't test drive it or discuss anything relating to a purchase, and the industry fought multiple lawsuits to keep it this way. So the industry and individual states totally brought this upon themselves, it wasn't some evil plan by Tesla.

Of course once they'd figured out how to bypass the rent-seeking laws in the US, they used the same model everywhere else as well.

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